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    K&M Euphonium/Baritone stand

    My K&M stand arrived last night and my first thoughts….it’s a nice stand. Sturdy and well made. My euphonium rests on the Hercules FH stand. Perfect for what I need.

    My practice space/photography storage is a work in progress. It’s nice to have a dedicated space, away from everything to keep your instruments out and protected. Click image for larger version. 

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    I AM DANA.


    Meet the Family
    Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
    Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
    Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
    Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS


    New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
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    Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

  2. I like the plant-based stand for, which is it, the Distin?
    Last edited by TedZateslo; 08-02-2023 at 07:41 AM. Reason: Typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedZateslo View Post
    I like the plant-based stand for, which is it, the Distin?
    Yup! Junior. He's my Distin! It's a temporary situation for him. He has a date with the technician to clean him up and then he'll be displayed properly in the space.
    I AM DANA.


    Meet the Family
    Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
    Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
    Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
    Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS


    New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
    Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium - 2022 -
    Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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    I have been using my K&M stand for 8-9 months now. I use it at five different locations every week--at home where I practice, at home where I clean my horn, at lessons, and at two ensembles. It is heavy to lug everywhere, but I'm willing to pay that price. It holds up excellently to the constant setup and foldup. (It's okay with me that four of the plastic screw covers have come off.) Some forum members mistrusted the cradle coating and lined their cradle with protective adhesive tape, but IMO that's a mistake. I think the factory coating was carefully chosen. I put my instrument in-and-out of the stand at least 10 times daily - that's 2500 times since I've owned it - and my brand new Wessex euphonium still shines. I wouldn't want to deal with worn protective tape or adhesive residue. With one simple adjustment, it also holds my Holton Collegiate baritone horn perfectly.

    One warning. Look directly at both sides and at the bottom of the cradle every time you insert your instrument. On one occasion, I set the instrument into the stand by instinct and it ended up within only two points of the cradle. Seconds later, the euphonium fell on its side, requiring repair to two slides and removal of some dings.
    Wessex EP-100GB Dolce euphonium + Schilke 51D mouthpiece
    Maine Pops Concert Band
    Portland (Maine) Community Orchestra

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcoso View Post

    I set the instrument into the stand by instinct and it ended up within only two points of the cradle. Seconds later, the euphonium fell on its side, requiring repair to two slides and removal of some dings.

    Good thing it still shines. ��

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    I own a couple of the K&M stands and the curved support grip has never tarnished or damaged my horn. I just wish I could find a good source for the curved support part without going throught Thomann and paying the huge VAT fee at the end.
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    Yamaha 201 Baritone
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcoso View Post
    I have been using my K&M stand for 8-9 months now. I use it at five different locations every week--at home where I practice, at home where I clean my horn, at lessons, and at two ensembles. It is heavy to lug everywhere, but I'm willing to pay that price. It holds up excellently to the constant setup and foldup. (It's okay with me that four of the plastic screw covers have come off.) Some forum members mistrusted the cradle coating and lined their cradle with protective adhesive tape, but IMO that's a mistake. I think the factory coating was carefully chosen. I put my instrument in-and-out of the stand at least 10 times daily - that's 2500 times since I've owned it - and my brand new Wessex euphonium still shines. I wouldn't want to deal with worn protective tape or adhesive residue. With one simple adjustment, it also holds my Holton Collegiate baritone horn perfectly.

    One warning. Look directly at both sides and at the bottom of the cradle every time you insert your instrument. On one occasion, I set the instrument into the stand by instinct and it ended up within only two points of the cradle. Seconds later, the euphonium fell on its side, requiring repair to two slides and removal of some dings.
    I may have been one of the forum members you referred to who puts something on the "rubber" cradle arms. I actually had some residue from those arms rub off on a horn I had in the stand, and that was the reason I looked around. I went to a hobby store and bought some felt paper that has an adhesive back. I cut out a piece for each arm, and stuck them in. Works great, and the horn slides into the stand easier than it did without this adhesive backed felt paper. I keep my arms fairly tight on the horn, not much slack, to avoid having the horn fall out. I have no problem with the felt strips, and I usually replace them every year or so. The 8x10 piece of adhesive backed felt paper will last forever. Or at least a long time. Or at least as long as me.

    I do use or have used three different euphoniums in the K&M stand. I always check the arm distance to make sure the horn is going to be secure in the stand. I usually (at least daily) check the wing nuts that are used to adjust the arm span for various sized horns to make sure they are tight.

    I have had my stand for many, many years, and it is a great stand, I would use no other one. I know some people swear by the Hercules stand, but I would never use that stand simply because it places the euphonium too high off the ground. I see it as an accident waiting to happen. But, I know, a lot of folks like that stand.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonewheeler View Post
    I own a couple of the K&M stands and the curved support grip has never tarnished or damaged my horn. I just wish I could find a good source for the curved support part without going throught Thomann and paying the huge VAT fee at the end.
    The US source for K&M products is Connolly Music Company.

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    If you need more information (I have ordered several spare parts from Connolly for my K&M stand over the years), PM me and I will forward to you all the correspondence I have with K&M in Germany and Connolly in the US.
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    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Morgan View Post
    I may have been one of the forum members you referred to who puts something on the "rubber" cradle arms. I actually had some residue from those arms rub off on a horn I had in the stand, and that was the reason I looked around. I went to a hobby store and bought some felt paper that has an adhesive back. I cut out a piece for each arm, and stuck them in. Works great, and the horn slides into the stand easier than it did without this adhesive backed felt paper. I keep my arms fairly tight on the horn, not much slack, to avoid having the horn fall out. I have no problem with the felt strips, and I usually replace them every year or so. The 8x10 piece of adhesive backed felt paper will last forever. Or at least a long time. Or at least as long as me.

    I do use or have used three different euphoniums in the K&M stand. I always check the arm distance to make sure the horn is going to be secure in the stand. I usually (at least daily) check the wing nuts that are used to adjust the arm span for various sized horns to make sure they are tight.

    I have had my stand for many, many years, and it is a great stand, I would use no other one. I know some people swear by the Hercules stand, but I would never use that stand simply because it places the euphonium too high off the ground. I see it as an accident waiting to happen. But, I know, a lot of folks like that stand.
    Thank you for your detailed description of why and how you use adhesive backed felt paper to line the arms of your K&G stand. I am reversing my opinion on that topic and plan to follow your example.
    Wessex EP-100GB Dolce euphonium + Schilke 51D mouthpiece
    Maine Pops Concert Band
    Portland (Maine) Community Orchestra

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcoso View Post
    Thank you for your detailed description of why and how you use adhesive backed felt paper to line the arms of your K&G stand. I am reversing my opinion on that topic and plan to follow your example.
    I have seen another example of covering the arms. I saw a K&M stand in use, and someone had put a sock on each arm, just pulled them down over the arms all the way to where it folds. This provides protection and also allows the horn to slip in easily. But you don't readily see the cradle with the socks covering them. You have to be careful how you put your horn in I would think.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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