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Thread: For Sale - Adams E3 .70, Antique finish, engraving

  1. #11
    This is going to be slightly off topic, but hey - it's my thread! lol

    I like the Cardinal - not quite as much character as the Prestige. I would put it somewhere between a sovereign and a Prestige soundwise.

    The Adams is a sweet sounding instrument, and plays very well. I just prefer a trigger, even when I only use it on rare occasion. This one is a bit heavier than my last E3, so has a bit more core sound, IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by iMav View Post
    How do you like the Cardinal? (And, how would you compare it to, say, the Adams and the Prestige?)
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

  2. #12
    Bump. Open to reasonable offers.
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

  3. Iím curious what made you go with the .70 thickness? Most Adams horns Iíve played are .60, are there any differences with a thicker material?
    Adams E1 Gold Brass Bell and SS Leadpipe
    Undergrad at Angelo State
    Future TA at University of Oklahoma

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by bayoung36 View Post
    I’m curious what made you go with the .70 thickness? Most Adams horns I’ve played are .60, are there any differences with a thicker material?
    I think the E2 is only available in .80 (their thickest). They offer .50, .55, .60, .70, and .80 for most other models. .60 is the standard and is most widely chosen.

    Lighter material will feel more responsive, but heavier material will yield a darker and more powerful sound (generally). There is a considerable difference in the weight of the horn as you hold it when you go from .60 to either .50 or .80.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC3)
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  5. That is true, isnít the effect of the thickness also dependent on the material used on the instrument?

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by bayoung36 View Post
    That is true, isn’t the effect of the thickness also dependent on the material used on the instrument?
    Yes. Adams offers yellow brass, gold brass, red brass, and (for bells or leadpipes) sterling silver.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC3)
    YouTube: dwerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    Twitter: davewerden
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  7. I play on an E1 with a gold brass bell. Itís a very sweet horn, but doesnít like getting pushed to the extreme!

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by bayoung36 View Post
    I’m curious what made you go with the .70 thickness? Most Adams horns I’ve played are .60, are there any differences with a thicker material?
    This particular horn was already manufactured at .70. I was interested in what yellow brass would sound like at that thickness vs. sterling in a lighter gauge. I didn't have two instruments side by side, so everything would be quite subjective.
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by miketeachesclass View Post
    This particular horn was already manufactured at .70. I was interested in what yellow brass would sound like at that thickness vs. sterling in a lighter gauge. I didn't have two instruments side by side, so everything would be quite subjective.
    I did an A/B test of my own .60 E3 with a sterling silver bell and a yellow brass E3 in .70 thickness. You can hear the results in this video:

    https://youtu.be/

    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC3)
    YouTube: dwerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    Twitter: davewerden
    Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

  10. Interesting, itís a very slight difference, the yellow brass definitely has a bit more zip to the notes and seems to slot better. However, the sterling silver really shines when getting to show off the overtones on slower passages.

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