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    Valve guides

    Ok, I’ve been a lurker for a while and finally joined. Don’t bust by chops on this but I have an Allora 204 euphonium that is in need of a set of valve guides. I’m originally a trombone player but always seconded on euphonium. Anyway, I bought this horn new in 2019 at a hell of a close out deal and it has played flawlessly. I use it to sit in with my high school kids, play in our local community bands, and to teach lessons. I’ve tried emailing a Allora but have received no response. Anybody know if other branded valve guides would fit this horn? Thanks for any help you can offer.

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    I would check as many videos and images as possible to compare with, but it is very likely the same as a Yamaha Euphonium valve guide.
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    As the Allora 204 looks to be a copy of the Yamaha 321, I second notaverygoodname's guess.
    But if you can post a picture, someone might recognize the valve guide.
    Or you could compare them with a Yamaha valve guide.
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    Thanks so much for the responses. They do resemble the Yamaha guides. I will look at the the 320/321 guides for a closer look. Thank you all so much for the replies. For an inexpensive/intermediate horn, it really plays wonderfully. Once I replaced the mouthpiece with a 51D, it really opened it up.

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    Well, Yamaha guides did not fit. They are set too deep on the side opposite the guide slot and would stick out pass the edge of the valve. I’ve sent another email to Allora. I hope they respond. Any ideas/suggestions are very much appreciated.

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    That doesn’t look all that similar to the 321. (Aside from simply having an upright bell and 4 inline valves.)

    Looks to have a significantly larger bore (and bell).
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  7. You say you need new valve guides. Did the originals break?

    You could try reaching out to vendor that still sells Allora instruments. It looks like Music & Arts, and Woodwind Brasswind still do. Alot of time vendors and repair shops will have direct phone numbers to these companies.
    Last edited by cpoet89; 05-05-2023 at 11:56 AM. Reason: *typo

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