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    Comparing 2 Alliance Mouthpieces: DC3 and DC4

    Here is my video with A/B comparisons of the signature David Childs mouthpiece, DC3, and the DC4.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMaJGJwV5Uo

    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC4)
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    In this context, the DC4 sounds brighter to me, and I prefer the DC3. That tracks with my experience comparing the DC2 and DC3.

    Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    Here is my video with A/B comparisons of the signature David Childs mouthpiece, DC3, and the DC4.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMaJGJwV5Uo

    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

  3. With the DC3 vs. DC4, the DC4 makes me happy. I know. Weird reaction but there is a thickness to the lower level in the spectrum of tone that supports the whole sound that really sets this one apart. I only hear it in this comparison. And there is no sacrifice to the highs in the tone. So the DC4 is my favorite.
    Richard

    1935 Conn 64I Baritone
    Mouthpieces: Too many to list and growing

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    Iím with Mike. The DC4 is notably brighter. Too much so IMO.

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    I join Richard in taking the minority view. While the close miking might be limiting the rendering of harmonic exposure for both mouthpieces, and the range of the fragments favors the center frequencies, I seem to detect a greater extension and harmonic complexity in both direction of the range for DC4 than DC3.

    Although I would not call DC4 having brightness per se -- as this might suggest a form of negative connotation, I would call its tone subtly more brilliant than DC3.... Perhaps more at home in a Helden/symphonic context than in the more traditional bessonian golden mellowness of a BBB.

    It would be interesting to hear some further clips, perhaps recorded in a slightly more resonant venue, and with excursions into the lower and upper range of the repertoire.

    Regards, Guido
    Euph - Wessex EP104 Festivo - SM4U, 4AL
    Flugel - Kanstul 1525
    Trpt - Adams A4 LB
    Bb Cornet -Carolbrass CCR-7772R-GSS
    Eb Cornet - Carolbrass CCR-7775-GSS

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    These two are really hard for me to distinguish between. They both sound very good to my aging ears. The DC4 might be a wee bit edgier, whereas the DC3 is a wee bit warmer. That is about all I can discern. I think I am starting to like getting old. Everything (that you can hear) sounds pretty good. And I never hear anything starting with "Honey, can you.......?"
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, Wessex EP-100 Dolce Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Wessex TE-360 Bombino Eb Tuba
    Rapid City New Horizons & Municipal Bands (Euphonium)
    Black Hills Symphony Orchestra (Bass Trombone), Powder River Symphony, Gillette, WY (Tenor Trombone)
    Black Hills Brass Quintet (Tuba)

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    I'll see what I can do about clips from a larger room. In a couple weeks I have a tentative recording session planned in my church's sanctuary, and Sara won't be there. Do a mouthpiece comparison would fit well.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC4)
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    The warmth in the lower range is enhanced with the DC3. If it doesn't effect endurance I'd say go with that one. Intonation and musicality seem similar - not as clear as the DC4/4AL comparison. My problem with switching mouthpieces always comes when I'm tired or not focused - how well will a given note speak at pianissimo in the middle of a piece of music.
    Adams E3 0.6 with SS Bell
    K&G 3.5D
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    San Francisco Brass Band

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    Thank you so much Dave, will be fabulous if you manage to record one further comparison of DC3 vs Dc4 from the more resonant sanctuary.

    Hope you will be able to include some material that exemplifies the broad expressive and frequency range of the eupho.

    Saluti, Guido
    Euph - Wessex EP104 Festivo - SM4U, 4AL
    Flugel - Kanstul 1525
    Trpt - Adams A4 LB
    Bb Cornet -Carolbrass CCR-7772R-GSS
    Eb Cornet - Carolbrass CCR-7775-GSS

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