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Thread: Besson Prestige (Gold Lacquer) review/experience

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    They came with dampers only - I misspoke when I added that they included extra felts.

    Quote Originally Posted by bbocaner View Post
    That's really nice that they are sending extra dampers and felts with the instrument now. I love the way Besson instruments play but I sold mine and moved on to something else because I had to wait 3 years to get a replacement set of these. I had $17,000 worth of instruments sitting in the closet unplayable because they couldn't get it together to sell me a set of $1 parts. I really hope they've figured that out by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miketeachesclass View Post
    I didnít mean to imply anything sinister.
    I didn't think that. My wording was just careful so I didn't sound like I was accusing Besson of messing with the USA market.
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    Thanks for the review! Many have been waiting to hear about how this new model plays. Obviously Steven Mead loves his and I have two friends who took the plunge and are thrilled. Itís a bit disappointing to me that the typical Besson sharp notes are still there but then again itís basically a 2052 with the gold lacquer and the floating lead pipe which are worthwhile upgrades.

  4. #14
    Yeah, I actually find the gold lacquer a bit obnoxious, but itís the only way to get the floating lead pipe, as far as I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSchott View Post
    Thanks for the review! Many have been waiting to hear about how this new model plays. Obviously Steven Mead loves his and I have two friends who took the plunge and are thrilled. Itís a bit disappointing to me that the typical Besson sharp notes are still there but then again itís basically a 2052 with the gold lacquer and the floating lead pipe which are worthwhile upgrades.
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    I think Micah has a floating lead pipe on his silver plated Prestige, I think he had to do something directly with Besson to make that happen. He can probably tell you for sure, maybe...
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    I am so fascinated by this talk of floating leadpipe. What would happen if we try to detach our leadpipes on other makes and make them floating leadpipes? Haha. The only time I've had a "floating" leadpipe was on a Yamaha convertible Euphonium years ago in high school.
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    I find the obsession with floating leadpipe a bit odd to be honest. Of my thirteen euphoniums Iíve owned, four have had the floating leadpipe, and all the ones I prefer havenít had.

    I am giving serious thought to treating myself to a gold Prestige later in the year and itís the only real area thatís causing me any concern (itís not a big concern). The only other area Iím worried about is finish because the German Prestiges I had all had varying degrees of finish problems.

    I like the fact it looks tacky and meretricious, although Geneva have cornered the market in the truly obnoxious combinations of materials.

    On a playing note, if the new leadpipe configuration cures the woes of flat middle and top B naturals (treble clef), itís a good thing.

  8. #18
    It is an interesting thing. I would think that the design of a horn would take into consideration where all the bracing is, and accommodate that in terms of horn response. That said, plenty of folks use lefreque plates and notice a difference; I have to assume changes in bracing on a lead pipe changes things. I certainly notice a difference.

    That said, I would never make a blanket statement like ďfloating lead pipes are betterĒ - if the instrument plays well, it plays well, lead pipe be damned!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianeSparkle View Post
    I am so fascinated by this talk of floating leadpipe. What would happen if we try to detach our leadpipes on other makes and make them floating leadpipes? Haha. The only time I've had a "floating" leadpipe was on a Yamaha convertible Euphonium years ago in high school.

  9. #19
    Iíll say the finish on this horn is quite good.

    I kind of like the Geneva material combinations. (And I liked the silver/black York combinations). That said, I find the engravings on the GVL model horn thoroughly gaudy.

    While the concert B naturals arent ďfixedĒ, theyíre markedly improved.

    I am noticing a few intonation oddities, but Iíll wait to comment for a few days. I want to make sure itís not just me.

    Lastly, after having their ďbrass expertsĒ review, Thomann wants me to send the horn back for repair or replacement. (See my first post about the first valve and casing). So Iím not sure how Iím going to handle that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Magikarp View Post
    I find the obsession with floating leadpipe a bit odd to be honest. Of my thirteen euphoniums Iíve owned, four have had the floating leadpipe, and all the ones I prefer havenít had.

    I am giving serious thought to treating myself to a gold Prestige later in the year and itís the only real area thatís causing me any concern (itís not a big concern). The only other area Iím worried about is finish because the German Prestiges I had all had varying degrees of finish problems.

    I like the fact it looks tacky and meretricious, although Geneva have cornered the market in the truly obnoxious combinations of materials.

    On a playing note, if the new leadpipe configuration cures the woes of flat middle and top B naturals (treble clef), itís a good thing.

  10. Hello everyone,

    I have been following this post with great interest, I have tested quite a number of Besson Prestige 2052-2 Euphonium's and I find each instrument is really consistent especially when compared with other brands of instruments. I believe I have the only Silver Plated Besson prestige 2052-2 Euphonium with a fully floating leadpipe and I absolutely love the may my instrument sings. If anyone has any questions I would always be happy to respond to them.

    I look forward to seeing how you get on with this instrument Mike!

    Best Wishes,

    Micah Dominic Parsons

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