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Thread: How can I make a flat horn play in tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhodson View Post
    - One repairman suggested shortening the main tuning slide (literally sawing some tubing off the horn...) Anyone ever done that?
    Am I guessing correctly that the repairman plays saxophone?

    You might need something slightly different than a stock mouthpiece. I know a few people that have recorded themselves (audio/video), and the skyped with Doug Elliott to get a custom solution. They're very happy with that. The other possibility to consider is that the 842 favors a smaller person with medium sized hands. It would be interesting to see how you hold the 842 compared to the Prestige. Also, do you balance the horn on a lap pillow?

  2. #12
    Saxophone - that's a good one :-) Multiple mouthpieces gave the same results. Unfortunatley.

  3. #13
    We tested it with a KORG as well. The results were very similar. I didn't have access to any of the mouthpieces you suggest, so that's something for me to explore. I hadn't thought of a leak - but it would be rare - and it was a brand new horn... I unwrapped it to play. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhodson View Post
    I hadn't thought of a leak - but it would be rare - and it was a brand new horn... I unwrapped it to play. Thanks.
    Don't rule anything out! I have tested brand-new horns (one of which was a Prestige) that seemed like something was seriously wrong. In one case it was a leak, where a soldered seam had opened a little during shipping. In another is was a piece of packing material that had gotten into the tubing.
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  5. Another possibility: My main water valve screw was a bit too tight (new horn), which prevented the spring from closing the valve all the way (resulting in a small leak).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhodson View Post
    Saxophone - that's a good one :-) Multiple mouthpieces gave the same results. Unfortunatley.
    This is not definitive. If the problem is really with embouchure or air support, you'll likely get similar results on several different mouthpieces -- unless they're REALLY different, like a Schilke 52D vs. a Schilke 60. And even then, if you find a difference that's helpful, this may not be the way to proceed if the real problem is embouchure or air support.
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    Thanks for all the ideas.... I think the problem has been solved (for me, at least).... I've moved on and not buying the Prestige :-)

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