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  • cpoet89
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 56

    Demondrae Thurman MP on sale TODAY ONLY

    I just visited Warburton's website today and saw that Demondrae's mouthpiece is on sale for 25% off for today only!

    I'd been debating for the last 2 weeks or more on whether or not I wanted to dish out 250 bucks for a mouthpiece, but this made that decision a lot easier. Go check it out!
  • John Morgan
    Moderator
    • Apr 2014
    • 1885

    #2
    Yee gads those mouthpieces have gone up!! I have both the silver and gold Demondrae mouthpieces, and I know I didn't pay $240 (Silver) or $440 (Gold) when I got them several years ago. I guess today you can get them for $180 or $330. Still a bunch, but I guess everything costs more now.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
    1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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    • MichaelSchott
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 474

      #3
      John what do you like about this mouthpiece? I've never tried one but thought about pulling the trigger. Is the size equivalent to a Wick 3?

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      • djwpe
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 263

        #4
        Originally posted by MichaelSchott View Post
        John what do you like about this mouthpiece? I've never tried one but thought about pulling the trigger. Is the size equivalent to a Wick 3?
        I’m not John, but I’ve been using one for about 12 years, since I got my first 5050. The rim size is 1.03”, which makes it a bit smaller than a wick3, but with the soft rim bite, it plays wider. It has a large throat, and the cup is shallower than the typical very deep Euph piece.

        I like the rim profile so much that I had Warburton make me a symphony tenor piece with the same rim shape. I also had Greg Blakck make. Similar rim shape for my bass trombone piece. I play with a bit of pressure (as does demondrae) and the rim is comfortable for me throughout the range. The large throat allows me to use a lot of air as demanded by the 5050 in the high range.

        Don.

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        • MichaelSchott
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 474

          #5
          Originally posted by djwpe View Post
          I’m not John, but I’ve been using one for about 12 years, since I got my first 5050. The rim size is 1.03”, which makes it a bit smaller than a wick3, but with the soft rim bite, it plays wider. It has a large throat, and the cup is shallower than the typical very deep Euph piece.

          I like the rim profile so much that I had Warburton make me a symphony tenor piece with the same rim shape. I also had Greg Blakck make. Similar rim shape for my bass trombone piece. I play with a bit of pressure (as does demondrae) and the rim is comfortable for me throughout the range. The large throat allows me to use a lot of air as demanded by the 5050 in the high range.

          Don.
          Thanks Don. Much appreciated! I pulled the trigger.

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          • John Morgan
            Moderator
            • Apr 2014
            • 1885

            #6
            Originally posted by MichaelSchott View Post
            John what do you like about this mouthpiece? I've never tried one but thought about pulling the trigger. Is the size equivalent to a Wick 3?
            Guess I am late in responding, and I see you went ahead and ordered the piece. I first used the Demondrae when I bought my M5050 about 10 years ago. Came with the horn. Then a Christmas or two later, my wife got me a gold version of the same piece (I had asked Santa Claus for that). When I sold the 5050 as I was having an Adams E3 made, I bought a Wessex Dolce to carry me over during the switchover and I wouldn't have the new horn for 5 or 6 months. I ended up using the Demondrae on the Dolce and it worked great. Then when the Adams E3 arrived, I tried a bunch of mouthpieces, but ended up again with the Demondrae. In fact, when I bought an Adams TB-1 trombone, I used the Demondrae with that horn as well.

            The mouthpiece is comfortable to me, no sharp edges. I would say it lands in between the 3 and 4 Wick. I think your chops have to be in pretty good shape for this mouthpiece. I can put a lot of air through the mouthpiece. I like the way it makes the horn sound. Kind of a personal, subjective thing, I guess, but if it feels good and sounds good up and down the horn, then I am going to keep it. I have tried many other mouthpieces over the years (10 at least) that I have had the Demondrae piece, and I have not found a mouthpiece that I like better. Being able to use it with my tenor trombone is really nice. I suppose that isn't too odd as the Wick 4AL is a trombone mouthpiece that is used a lot with euphonium players.

            I have more on the larger size of lips, and I think this mouthpiece is a good size for my characteristics.

            I will be anxious to learn how you like it when it arrives. What horn are you going to plug it into?
            John Morgan
            The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
            Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
            1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
            Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
            Year Round Except Summer:
            Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
            KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
            Summer Only:
            Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
            Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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            • MichaelSchott
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 474

              #7
              Thanks John. It will be used with my E3 with SS bell. It will be a bit wider and shallower than the Doug Elliot I currently use. I’ll let you know my impressions when I get some time with it.

              I’m very happy with the configuration of the DE but it never hurts to experiment especially when discounted. Not to mention there was Apple Pay money just taunting me. 😉.
              Last edited by MichaelSchott; 10-19-2023, 01:05 PM.

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              • franz
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2015
                • 392

                #8
                Originally posted by John Morgan View Post
                Yee gads those mouthpieces have gone up!! I have both the silver and gold Demondrae mouthpieces, and I know I didn't pay $240 (Silver) or $440 (Gold) when I got them several years ago. I guess today you can get them for $180 or $330. Still a bunch, but I guess everything costs more now.
                Regarding the WB Demondrae mouthpieces I noticed some inconsistencies regarding the price. On the company's official website the price reported is €230.95 for silver plated and €421.95 for gold plated, while on Dillon the price is respectively $194.5 and $134.5, on eBRASS $275 for the silver, Milano music $194.50 and Thoman €194.50. If we compare the prices with other mouthpieces, for example K&G €110 for silver and €135 for gold or the Dennis Wick SM ultra £98-104 silver and £139-145 for gold we notice that the WB has a price considerably higher and, on the official website, a disproportionate price for the gold-plated one. Now I don't argue with the fact that the price of gold is always constantly rising, but the quantity deposited in the plating process is of the order of a few microns (thousandths of a millimeter) and $200 more seems like a real theft to me ( on Dillon the gold-plated version is $40 more. In comparison, the price that the galvanic laboratory, from which I usually have my mouthpieces plated, charges is €10.
                2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.

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                • spkissane
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 226

                  #9
                  Originally posted by djwpe View Post
                  The rim size is 1.03”, which makes it a bit smaller than a wick3, but with the soft rim bite, it plays wider.
                  This makes a lot of sense. I've been giving this mouthpiece a try lately, and it "feels" bigger on my face than the Gail Robertson piece I normally play on, even though I don't believe it's actually any bigger.
                  Sean Kissane
                  Low Brass Specialist, Paige's Music
                  Principal Euphonium, Indianapolis Brass Choir
                  Principal Euphonium, Crossroads Brass Band

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                  • MichaelSchott
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 474

                    #10
                    Some first impressions on the Demondrae which arrived today. It's a very different mouthpiece from my Doug Elliott. My DE is configured as follows: 102 rim which is 25.9mm, I cup which is similar to a 51D and 8 shank which is a standard size. Overall it's like a 51D with a larger rim. The Demondrae is wider but a bit shallower. Initial impressions are the Warburton has a rounder sound, especially in the extreme ranges. It feels to me that I'm getting a more solid sound. For example if you know the Curnow Concerto for Euphonium there are some fast technical passages leading to bar 58. The last 2 bars start on a high G concert, ranging up to a high B concert then descending more than 2 octaves to a low G concert. This passages is far cleaner than on my DE configuration.

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                    • John Morgan
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1885

                      #11
                      Glad you like the Warburton. I sure do like mine (both of them). I am going to be playing Curnow's "Rhapsody for Euphonium and Concert Band" shortly, and in prepping this piece, I am very happy with the mouthpiece. I plan to play the unaccompanied Falcone "Mazurka" as an encore, and that piece also sounds nice with the Demondrae, and of course with my Adams.

                      I had laid off practicing a bit during some of the days this past month. Trip to Michigan and just some life events that kept me from my normal daily routine. I notice if I am not pretty much playing very regularly, my chops start to go a little. And I do think that this mouthpiece is probably a wee bit harder to last on when taxing your chops than a smaller mouthpiece would be. But I wouldn't want to give up the sound for range or endurance. I will just have to make a point of staying on top of my practicing.
                      John Morgan
                      The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                      Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                      1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                      Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                      Year Round Except Summer:
                      Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                      KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                      Summer Only:
                      Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                      Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                      • MichaelSchott
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 474

                        #12
                        If you get back to Michigan and are in the Detroit area, let me know. I’d love to meet you in person John.

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                        • John Morgan
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1885

                          #13
                          My daughter, who we were visiting, lives in Kalamazoo, so we are a bit away from Detroit, Michael. But my grandfather on my mother's side was a huge Detroit Tigers fan, and he was extremely interested in my journey on euphonium (then baritone). And my wife, Linda, was born in Detroit (suburbs actually). So, I feel like I almost belong to Detroit. Except I am a New York Yankees fan!!
                          John Morgan
                          The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                          Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                          1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                          Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                          Year Round Except Summer:
                          Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                          KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                          Summer Only:
                          Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                          Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                          • MichaelSchott
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 474

                            #14
                            Originally posted by John Morgan View Post
                            My daughter, who we were visiting, lives in Kalamazoo, so we are a bit away from Detroit, Michael. But my grandfather on my mother's side was a huge Detroit Tigers fan, and he was extremely interested in my journey on euphonium (then baritone). And my wife, Linda, was born in Detroit (suburbs actually). So, I feel like I almost belong to Detroit. Except I am a New York Yankees fan!!
                            Could be worse. You could be a Red Sox fan! 😂

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                            • Snorlax
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1003

                              #15
                              Michael,
                              There is NOTHING worse than being a Red Sox fan. They are evil minions of Satan.
                              ...and I'm not saying that just because I was born and raised in NYC and grew up
                              with the Yankees of the late '50s and early '60s.

                              To get back on topic, when I had my 5050 I used an SM 3.5, as I found the Demondrae
                              piece a bit too large.
                              Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meter CW)
                              Formerly Principal Euphonium in a whole
                              bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
                              Shires Q41, Yamaha 321, 621 Baritone
                              Wick 4AL, Wessex 4Y, or whatever I grab.
                              Conn 50H trombone, Blue P-bone
                              www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

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