Water gutter / spit guard / grime gutter

[Wilsen]

Hello,

Just wondering whether any of you have ever looked into 3D printing your own gutter? I suffer a lot from spillage over my pants when playing. I've been searching around the old Google to see if I could find any 3D files, but to no avail.

Do you guys know of places to find it or have you made some yourself?

[franz]

I have made several by working pieces of brass tubing: a couple do their duty on my Bessons and the other two I gave to my friends to whom I acted as intermediary in the purchase of two vintage New Standards.

[CousinJack]

Definitely would be possible, might have to design it yourself though. I've taken mine off of my Sovereign though, the small amount of lap spillage is inconsequential compared to the clacking of the gutter every time I put down the valves!

[davewerden]

There are a couple posts here about making your own from plastic tubing, which I have done before. That would be something to consider, unless you just want to play with 3D printing.

Metal gutters are most commonly seen, and that is what I use now if I need to because mine is made by Adams. Those have a flat spring inside to keep them from rattling - the spring pushes up against one of the nipples, but must do so without covering the hole.

I have also seen a commercial plastic gutter, I think made for Willson. For that, 3 keyhole openings are used to fit over the nipples.

On the home-made version I mention, I would just cut a slot slightly smaller than the nipple and slightly longer than the span of the 3 nipples. The plastic is flexible enough to snap over the nipple.

[franz]

Definitely would be possible, might have to design it yourself though. I've taken mine off of my Sovereign though, the small amount of lap spillage is inconsequential compared to the clacking of the gutter every time I put down the valves!

My project involves interposing a suitably shaped Teflon disc between the water collector and the nipples of the caps so as not to damage the plating of the same and to act as an anti-noise gasket. Simple, cheap, satisfying and functional.

[DaveBj]

My Dolce came with a grime gutter that doesn't make any noise at all, except when I take it off. A silver plated horn with a gold-plated grime gutter -- is that not the height of decadence?

[TheJH]

A fellow euph player in one of my bands made a piece of hard, bendable plastic tube (those white ones, idk if they have metal in them?), cut holes in them to put over the nipples, then bent it to go along the vertical back tube with a little draining tap on the bottom.
Works pretty well for him. I'll see if I can make a picture of it in 2 weeks at the next rehearsal.

[RickF]

Definitely would be possible, might have to design it yourself though. I've taken mine off of my Sovereign though, the small amount of lap spillage is inconsequential compared to the clacking of the gutter every time I put down the valves!

You can add some O-rings of the proper size to the nipples of the bottom valve caps to stop the valve trough from rattling. I use these pictured below that work well on my M5050 horn.

[tonewheeler]

You can add some O-rings of the proper size to the nipples of the bottom valve caps to stop the valve trough from rattling. I use these pictured below that work well on my M5050 horn.

Same ones I use for my 5050 too....

[Aychelby]

I've been looking into this for myself as well and haven't been able to find much of anything either. I might give it a shot and I'd be glad to share if I can get it to work.

[Fishlips]

I've been trying out the SBtray. It's a plastic cup of sorts with legs that insert into the lower cap holes. There is a version for long nipples and one for low or no nipples [place your own tacky joke here]. I've had it for a few months and it is working out pretty well. The plastic legs are very thin and look like they could easily break, but they haven't.

To keep the water from sloshing out when I tip the horn, I added a few inches of tiki torch wick into the tray. There is enough of a gap that the wick doesn't touch or block the cap hole. There is no rattle and no back pressure or suction resulting in the valve casings.

I got mine through Steven Mead's online store, and they may also be available from the manufacturer. Here's a link: https://www.euphoniumstore.net/acces...nium-long-legs

[Ahkleinmd@gmail.com]

Is the SBTray available for lpurchase in the USA?

[Fujiifilm]

If there aren't any US vendors that stock it, Steven Mead's online store does offer shipping to the US.

[ghmerrill]

I made the one for my euphonium from stock PVC plumbing tubing and a couple of plastic end plugs intended as hole plugs for wiring holes in desks. All purchased at that mecca of brass instrument supplies: Lowe's. Then I added an Amati water valve to it so I don't have to take it off to drain it. It fits firmly, doesn't rattle, works well, and didn't require any "machining" beyond an electric drill and a file. I was going to make another for my big Eb tuba, but discovered that with a bit of judicious plastic shaving, the one I made fits both the euph and the tuba equally well.

Given the cost of these things from instrument supply sources, someone could probably make some real money by making and selling plastic printed ones. I've seen that done in some other "parts areas" on Ebay for rather hard to get but easy to print small parts (such as single-shot magazines for target rifles). But I'm retired and not looking to start a home industry.

[charger]

With my Besson Prestige more water drips out the tuning slide than accumulates in the grime gutter.