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  • Mitch
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 17

    Besson 967, 1994, Sluggish Valve 2

    Hello,
    I have a Besson 967 made around 1994. The second valve is a little sluggish at times. I have cleaned it and tried different valve oils. I cleaned it with Flitz. Any suggestions to help with this valve? Is this more common on the second valve? All other valves are fine.
  • cpoet89
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 56

    #2
    I had a similar problem with my Besson when it was new (back around 2008ish.) For probably the first 3-4 years that I owned that horn, the 2nd valve stuck pretty consistently despite everything that I tried. I tried cleaning it (both professionally and by myself), replacing the spring, replacing the valve guide, and even had the valve lapped at least twice. Nothing seemed to help.

    Then all of sudden, it stopped sticking on its own, and I had no idea why...until I realized that I had switched valve oils recently. It annoyed me a bit that after everything I had tried, switching to a different valve oil almost instantly fixed my problem, but it hasn't been an issue since. Not sure what you're using now, but it's worth a try to just try out a few different oils and see if you notice a difference.

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    • anadmai
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2022
      • 266

      #3
      My 88 1st valve does stick on occasion.
      DANA


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      • Mitch
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2021
        • 17

        #4
        Which oil did you end up using?

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        • Mitch
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2021
          • 17

          #5
          Cpoet89,

          Which oil did you end up using?

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          • anadmai
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2022
            • 266

            #6
            Originally posted by Mitch View Post
            Which oil did you end up using?
            I'm using the Yahama vintage old now. I had probably used Al Cass from day one...
            DANA


            Meet the Family
            Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
            Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
            Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
            Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
            Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


            New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
            Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
            Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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            • cpoet89
              Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 56

              #7
              I've been using Yamaha's regular synthetic oil for years now and it's worked great for me. I've also had success with Blue Juice but I find that the Yamaha lasts a lot longer. Both should be very easy to find and affordable.

              There are quite a few threads on the forum discussing different valve oils that you should be able to find if you do quick search!

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