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  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    Special Sterling Virtuoso - Rose Bell and Excalibur Bell

    Because the Sterling Virtuoso was largely hand assembled, Paul was able to offer some customizations on demand. He also came up with some ideas on his own. Here are a couple bell variations Paul came up with as experiments.

    The first was the Rose bell. You can see why he named it that in the photos. He used a "scratch" finish with bright highlights. The bell design required a heavy rim, which made the horn play differently. I show the horn and also a photo of my friend, Charley Brighton, playing one at ITEC 2008.

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    The other experiment was the "Excalibur" model. The edge of the bell just flaired out to the end and stopped - there was no rolled edge. It played more freely, but didn't have quite the projection of the normal bell. I mentioned the potential for easier damage. Paul said there was potential, BUT it would be much easier to fix than a standard bell that got bent. The photos are not very helpful, but for what it's worth...

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    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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  • iMav
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1322

    #2
    Is the Virtuoso still “largely hand assembled”? Just curious if that was meant to be past tense or not. (I thought that the Virtuoso was still in production…even though there isn’t a good US-based reseller currently available.)
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    • davewerden
      Administrator
      • Nov 2005
      • 11136

      #3
      Originally posted by iMav View Post
      Is the Virtuoso still “largely hand assembled”? Just curious if that was meant to be past tense or not. (I thought that the Virtuoso was still in production…even though there isn’t a good US-based reseller currently available.)
      Doug Ruby can probably answer with more authority, but I believe the answer is "yes" (still largely hand made).
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      • Snorlax
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        • Mar 2007
        • 1003

        #4
        I remember trying that rose-bell horn when I was in Cincinnati for Harvey's induction into the Classical Music Hall of Fame. You were there too, Dave, IIRC.
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        • davewerden
          Administrator
          • Nov 2005
          • 11136

          #5
          Originally posted by Snorlax View Post
          I remember trying that rose-bell horn when I was in Cincinnati for Harvey's induction into the Classical Music Hall of Fame. You were there too, Dave, IIRC.
          You recall correctly! That is where I first met Charley in person, and I'm pretty sure that's where I took the photo of him playing the Rose (I think Paul called it the "Yorkshire Rose").
          Last edited by davewerden; 02-25-2023, 07:00 PM.
          Dave Werden (ASCAP)
          Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
          Adams Artist (Adams E3)
          Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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          • anadmai
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2022
            • 266

            #6
            Originally posted by davewerden View Post
            Because the Sterling Virtuoso was largely hand assembled, Paul was able to offer some customizations on demand. He also came up with some ideas on his own. Here are a couple bell variations Paul came up with as experiments.

            The first was the Rose bell. You can see why he named it that in the photos. He used a "scratch" finish with bright highlights. The bell design required a heavy rim, which made the horn play differently. I show the horn and also a photo of my friend, Charley Brighton, playing one at ITEC 2008.

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            The other experiment was the "Excalibur" model. The edge of the bell just flaired out to the end and stopped - there was no rolled edge. It played more freely, but didn't have quite the projection of the normal bell. I mentioned the potential for easier damage. Paul said there was potential, BUT it would be much easier to fix than a standard bell that got bent. The photos are not very helpful, but for what it's worth...

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            ewwwwww
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            • Arnbone Euph
              Member
              • Jan 2019
              • 125

              #7
              Anadmai:
              At least it's not a French horn.
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              • anadmai
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 266

                #8
                Originally posted by Arnbone Euph View Post
                Anadmai:
                At least it's not a French horn.

                Lol. You’re right. Attaboy for the positivity. ❤️
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                Meet the Family
                Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
                Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
                Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
                Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
                Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


                New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
                Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
                Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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                • ydave
                  Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 142

                  #9
                  Definitely a Yorkshire rose that one Dave!
                  i recall tooting it as well.
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                  • davewerden
                    Administrator
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 11136

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ydave View Post
                    Definitely a Yorkshire rose that one Dave!
                    i recall tooting it as well.
                    That rings a bell - thanks for straightening my memory!
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                    • daruby
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2217

                      #11
                      I played the Yorkshire Rose and the rimless horn both during my first visit to the Sterling shop in 2008. The Rose was a very heavy and stiff bell due to the rim bracing. Very dark and played well. The rimless was not my cup of tea.
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                      • daruby
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                        • Apr 2006
                        • 2217

                        #12
                        Some pics....

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                        Townsend Military Band

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