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    Can you identify this horn (from Reddit)?

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  2. Looking at the leadpipe brace reminds me of an old Besson or Boosey & Hawkes, but I don't know much about vintage horns.

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    Interesting rectangular-shaped curve to that main tuning slide....
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    Has the Blaikley compensating system, so I'd go with an early Boosey horn. Probably before the merger with Hawkes & Son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highpitch View Post
    Has the Blaikley compensating system, so I'd go with an early Boosey horn. Probably before the merger with Hawkes & Son.
    From what I see this is not a compensatory euphonium.
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    It has the 2nd set of slides on the back of the valves.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by highpitch View Post
    It has the 2nd set of slides on the back of the valves.
    It is not compensated, there are only valve slides 1 and 2 on the back. It is a Couesnon Bb Saxhorn (or a copy of Couesnon, ca 1960/70s

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    Looks like an early Besson to me. Maybe an Enharmonic compensator?

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    I also think it is an early Besson & co. Especially the main tuning slide on the front of the instrument is not like a couesnon saxhorn.

    Closest thing i can find is:
    https://simonettitubacollection.file...4/200506-1.jpg

    It still is a bit different from the one you posted..but not far off. And has the bracing between the first and third valve.
    Last edited by NLeuph; 02-15-2023 at 06:17 AM.

  10. OK, let's have a closer look: the main tuning slide is that in front of the first valve, the square one at the lower bow is for the forth valve.
    This layout is typical for the french saxhorns since ca 1880, copied by many manufacturers. The brace between the main tuning slide and 3rd valve slide is part of this, my 1913 Sax Fils has it as well.
    Talking against Besson: Besson placed the 4th valve rectangular behind the main bow (on all Class A Sax-copies between 1885 and 1930). The shown horn has the 4th valve between main bow and 3rd valve bow in a comfortable angle.
    Talking pro Couesnon: I have one looking quite similar, only mine is severly damaged und far from playing condition

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