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BESSON 2052 PRESTIGE, SILVER, M.I. UK, Adams E1 sterling silver or Willson 2900 TA?

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  • simonm29
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    • Oct 2022
    • 59

    #46
    Yes, its true
    Im concerned about the adams, if its originaly or whatever.... thinking to go with willson...dont know anymore

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    • simonm29
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      • Oct 2022
      • 59

      #47
      Originally posted by davewerden View Post
      Well, that complicates things a little! I believe I have previously seen an E1 with the heavy valve block, which was a custom order. So it's possible that is what this one is. That would probably make it feel/sound a bit more solid, like the E2, but the E2's biggest difference is the .80 metal, which makes it quite heavy.

      Every Adams I've tried has the stamped receiver (actually, it is the receiver's "holder" that is stamped, not the part that you turn to adjust the AGR). But they are always making small changes, and they are all hand made, so I can't be totally sure. I tried to find some good photos showing the bracing along the bell, but could not. My understanding was that the E2 had a somewhat different placement of the top brace, I think.
      Hi
      Can it be found, the exactly model with which valve for example, sending to Adams the serial number ? Ty

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      • davewerden
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        • Nov 2005
        • 11136

        #48
        Originally posted by simonm29 View Post
        Hi
        Can it be found, the exactly model with which valve for example, sending to Adams the serial number ? Ty
        It wouldn't hurt to ask, but I have no idea if they have a person with time to handle requests like that.
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        • iMav
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 1322

          #49
          Adams has never failed to respond to me with queries…regarding how trivial. They HAVE taken a while, of course. But I think they would eventually get around to answering you, as they have time to do so.
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          • Magikarp
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            • Jul 2020
            • 247

            #50
            Definitely prefer the sound of the Adams. The Willson has a lot of edge to the sound. It’s hard to take edge away. That’s the reason I bought an E2. The 1 and 3 broke up at the loudest dynamics, although Gary Curtin sounded sublime on his at the RNCM Festival Of Brass (side note - if any of you are in the UK at the end of January it really is worth a special trip to Manchester)
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            • simonm29
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              • Oct 2022
              • 59

              #51
              anyone knows where I can find the serial number database of Adams Euphoniums, I have the number but cannot find anything where to check it.
              Thanks

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              • iMav
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                • May 2011
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                #52
                Originally posted by simonm29 View Post
                anyone knows where I can find the serial number database of Adams Euphoniums, I have the number but cannot find anything where to check it.
                Thanks
                Shoot an email to Adams.

                info@adams.nl
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                • simonm29
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                  • Oct 2022
                  • 59

                  #53
                  Originally posted by iMav View Post
                  Shoot an email to Adams.

                  info@adams.nl
                  done, lets wait now for a couple of days

                  i could not find any serial number database from them

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                  • iMav
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                    • May 2011
                    • 1322

                    #54
                    Surprisingly, they have this website...but don't cover their own serial numbers:

                    https://www.adams-music.com/en/repai...serial_numbers
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                    • simonm29
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                      • Oct 2022
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by iMav View Post
                      Surprisingly, they have this website...but don't cover their own serial numbers:

                      https://www.adams-music.com/en/repai...serial_numbers
                      yea, thats funny

                      I have recieved an answer from them, that is exactly on the Photo what it is, considering the serial number
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                      • davewerden
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                        • Nov 2005
                        • 11136

                        #56
                        Originally posted by simonm29 View Post
                        yea, thats funny

                        I have recieved an answer from them, that is exactly on the Photo what it is, considering the serial number
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                        If I read it right, this one has a sterling silver bell.
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                        • John Morgan
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                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1884

                          #57
                          From the video, I saw Sterling Silver under the Adams name on the bell, so yes, Sterling Silver bell.
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                          • guidocorona
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                            • Jun 2018
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                            #58
                            Oh wow.... An Adams Custom E1 with Sterling Silver bell and a heavy valve block to boot?!

                            Likely blends the color palette of the silver bell with a bit of the rich character of the E2.

                            Simon, this is quite a rare Adams super-customized find... Would be painful to pass it by IMO!

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                            • simonm29
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                              • Oct 2022
                              • 59

                              #59
                              But from Adams factory , the serial number they said it should have E1 valve not this one..

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                              • simonm29
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                                • Oct 2022
                                • 59

                                #60
                                Its from 2012, should i pass it or take it??
                                Dont know
                                Maybe someone else changed the valve system....
                                Adams as i understood, they didnt
                                Last edited by simonm29; 02-06-2023, 10:41 AM.

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