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Thread: BESSON 2052 PRESTIGE, SILVER, M.I. UK, Adams E1 sterling silver or Willson 2900 TA?

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    This is a Adams E2, not E1!
    2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.

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    Are you sure? Whats the difference ? Im new in euphonium so i realy dont know
    Thx

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    I'm not sure if Franz can tell you more, but to my eye, the valve block is the heavier E2 style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm29 View Post
    Are you sure? What's the difference ? Im new in euphonium so i realy dont know
    Thx
    The difference between the Adams E1 and E2 euphonium models, as far as I know, are essentially the thickness of the slab and the heavier valve caps and buttons on the E2, which makes the instrument heavier and more massive with a darker tone. , while the E3 is essentially a copy of the old Hirsbrunners (Peter Hirsbrunner went out of business and gave his euphone-making equipment to Adams) with a few tweaks and improvements. The cool thing about Adams that I like is the fact that they can be customized in an almost infinite variety of variations, finishes, thicknesses, or whatever feasible one desires, from engravings to prototypes.

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    Last edited by franz; 01-30-2023 at 10:50 AM.
    2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.

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    Stucked between Adams and this Willson, im just looking for something that will serve me till i can play. Something good and quality made, enduranced euphonium, that i will not switch .... needed for brass band.
    So now is the question , those adams e1/ e2- i dont know which is, or that Willson 2900 TA.
    Thx all

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm29 View Post
    Stucked between Adams and this Willson, im just looking for something that will serve me till i can play. Something good and quality made, enduranced euphonium, that i will not switch .... needed for brass band.
    So now is the question , those adams e1/ e2- i dont know which is, or that Willson 2900 TA.
    Thx all
    I haven't tried either one, but if I had to choose, I'd go for the Adams. The sound of the Willson is not what I want from a euphonium, while the Adams E2 is one of my favorites alongside the Prestige 2052 and Miraphone 5050.

    Here is a video of Algirdas Matonis trying on the Adams.
    https://youtu.be/bgIbkQKXtck
    Last edited by franz; 01-30-2023 at 11:32 AM.
    2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.

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    Mauro Martins has some excellent demos of all Adams euphos... They really showcase their individual tonal character.

    Here is the E2:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7t07Sd7tbk

    Here is the E1:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIGs6SM0z-4

    I am with Franz about favorite euphoniums... Adams E2, Miraphone M5050, and Besson Prestige 2052.... May be a Varese/Guanzate thing?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by guidocorona View Post

    I am with Franz about favorite euphoniums... Adams E2, Miraphone M5050, and Besson Prestige 2052.... May be a Varese/Guanzate thing?! :
    Is Guanzate your origin country? It is less than 30 km from my home. If you happen to come back here we can meet.

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    Is is really E2 or E1?
    Please
    Ty

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