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  • superted
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 119

    Prestige Valve Caps

    Has anyone had success with using lighter set of valve caps on the Prestige euph?

    I know Steven Mead was using:
    Light - 1st, 2nd top
    Heavy - everything else

    From my observations most people just keep the heavy caps on (factory default).

    I like the feel and sound of light weights caps, at least in my small rehearsal room. However, I worry that the sound might not have enough focus / core.

    I'm using a Hammond 11XL because for whatever reason I'm most in tune in the upper register with it. When I am on the 4AL or SM4U I'm way sharp in the upper register.

    Regards,
    Ted
    Ted

    Besson Prestige BE2052-8G-0 Euphonium
    Besson Sovereign 956 Baritone
  • Jharris
    Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 61

    #2
    I don’t think the sound changes, it’s how it feels and responds to you personally that counts… a bit like having lighter springs etc. everyone’s physiology is different and preferences vary. If it feels right then it’s right for you.

    I feel heavier caps and springs coordinate with my playing better than lighter ones. I am guessing you might be the opposite.

    Mouthpiece choice will have a bigger difference over sound than valve caps IMO.

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    • iMav
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 1322

      #3
      I believe jharris is correct. Adding weight helps with “slotting” the notes. So, playability improvement, and not sound/tone/etc improvement.
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      • miketeachesclass
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 461

        #4
        I am using heavy/light/heavy.

        It seems to help some response in the upper register, but that may be placebo effect.

        Mike
        Mike Taylor

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        • stevevaughn
          Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 61

          #5
          I did a bit of experimenting a while ago with my new Prestige.

          I found that the heavier the setup is...the sound becomes more dull and heavy (which some may think of as "dark", depending on the listener/player), and with more defined slotting, but sluggish response.
          The lighter the setup is...the sound has more brilliance and is lighter, and the slots are wider, and response is better.

          I double on tuba a lot, so I have a broader, darker approach to playing euphonium than others I have played with/talked to. So... I use a lighter setup to give my sound more brilliance, and I like having quick response for the way I play. Another player may benefit from "darkening" the sound because they tend to play on the brighter/narrower side (not that it's worse/better!), and they would benefit from a heavier setup.

          This is all on a spectrum, I don't think anyone would benefit from all heavy or all light. If so...maybe they just need to practice more to get the sound they want
          Last edited by stevevaughn; 02-06-2023, 12:32 PM.
          Steven Vaughn, D.M.A.
          Professor of Tuba & Euphonium, University of Northern Colorado

          Principal Tuba - Fort Collins Symphony
          Euphonium - Fountain City Brass Band

          Eastman 836 CC Tuba
          Meinl Weston 2182W F Tuba
          Besson 2052 Euphonium

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