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Thread: Mouthpiece Visualizer for placement

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    Mouthpiece Visualizer for placement

    Here's an interesting one (I think so, anyway)

    Have any of you used a visualizer to see how your embouchure is actually lining up with the rim of a mouthpiece with your current placement?

    I've got a bunch of Doug Elliott rims, and just out of curiosity, I looked at my buzz in the mirror. I noticed that the aperture of my embouchure was off center, and was being impeded by the actual rim when using my "normal" placement. If I move the piece to where the aperture is centered in the rim, the sound of the buzz improves, and once I put the piece back together, it seems like my sound and consistency are improved. (Obviously, time will tell).

    It feels a little strange "setting" in a slightly different position than normal, but I'm all for it if it improves things. I can get used to it.

    Just wondering if anyone has done this. (I know they sell actual visualizers, and I've heard anecdotally that Arnold Jacobs used this method with his students.

    Mike
    Mike Taylor

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    I haven’t but when talking with potential online teachers, a couple listed this as one of the things they’d do with me.
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    I've done the same thing as you Mike using a Doug Elliott rim. My two front upper teeth are a little crooked so I'm a little off center to my right.

    When I played trumpet my private teacher tried to get me to center up as my embouchure looked off center to anyone looking on. Now that I'm playing euph it's not that big a deal.
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    Rick, I was about to reply saying something similar! My teeth are also a little crooked, so my most comfortable embouchure is a little off to my right. Otherwise one of my teeth kinda digs into my lip.
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    Yeah, when I am done playing and look at the ring around the mouth, mine is not perfectly centered. I have a lower front tooth that juts out more than the others, and I think that is the reason. But my embouchure feels comfortable the way I play. I have in the past tried centering everything, and the result was not to my liking, so I am staying put with what I have.

    But I have not tried the visualizer. My visualizer is looking at the ring on my lower lip when I am done. Is it worth it to try using it now?
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