Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 26

Thread: Best budget deals on new chinese horns - my thoughts

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Valley City, North Dakota, USA
    Posts
    627

    Best budget deals on new chinese horns - my thoughts

    So, based on everything I've read, researched, ordered, and seen...I'd recommend the following for NEW, budget-friendly, fully-compensating, 3+1 euphs:

    Under $1k budget - Monzani MZEP-1150 - The silver-plate version was $646.34 shipped (lacquer would be under $600). I find no discernible difference between it and my Schiller Elite euph which I've had since 2011. Both sound GREAT and the valves are nice.
    https://www.musicstore.com/en_US/USD...BLA0002559-000

    Under $1.5k budget - John Packer JP274 - There are eBay sellers that are currently accepting $1250 offers for new ones in lacquer finish ($1343.75 shipped). These are heavier than the Jinbao stencils, which is probably why you see them in a lot of school settings...they hold up well. While made in China, their design and manufacturing are managed by John Packer ("we don't do stencils").
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175424707616

    (I'll add some pics later on in this thread.)

    [Note, this is as of the end of Nov 2022]
    Euphoniums
    Sterling Virtuoso IV
    John Packer 374LT
    John Packer 274L
    S.E.Shires Q41s

    Larry Herzog Jr.
    Twitter: iMav
    Facebook: iMav
    Email: me@imav.org
    Founder of geekhack.org

    Linktree: iMav


    All things EUPHONIUM! Guilded server

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Valley City, North Dakota, USA
    Posts
    627
    The same eBay seller is currently accepting $1525 offers on the silver plated JP274. (And, again, $1250 for the lacquer version.)

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175456218390
    Euphoniums
    Sterling Virtuoso IV
    John Packer 374LT
    John Packer 274L
    S.E.Shires Q41s

    Larry Herzog Jr.
    Twitter: iMav
    Facebook: iMav
    Email: me@imav.org
    Founder of geekhack.org

    Linktree: iMav


    All things EUPHONIUM! Guilded server

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Valley City, North Dakota, USA
    Posts
    627
    Additionally, the same eBay seller (Capital Music Gear out of Madison, WI) is accepting $2405 offers (shipped) on the JP374 Sterling horn in lacquer finish!
    Euphoniums
    Sterling Virtuoso IV
    John Packer 374LT
    John Packer 274L
    S.E.Shires Q41s

    Larry Herzog Jr.
    Twitter: iMav
    Facebook: iMav
    Email: me@imav.org
    Founder of geekhack.org

    Linktree: iMav


    All things EUPHONIUM! Guilded server

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2019
    Location
    Intermountain West in USA
    Posts
    108
    Quote Originally Posted by iMav View Post
    So, based on everything I've read, researched, ordered, and seen...I'd recommend the following for NEW, budget-friendly, fully-compensating, 3+1 euphs:

    Under $1k budget - Monzani MZEP-1150 - The silver-plate version was $646.34 shipped (lacquer would be under $600). I find no discernible difference between it and my Schiller Elite euph which I've had since 2011. Both sound GREAT and the valves are nice.
    https://www.musicstore.com/en_US/USD...BLA0002559-000

    Under $1.5k budget - John Packer JP274 - There are eBay sellers that are currently accepting $1250 offers for new ones in lacquer finish ($1343.75 shipped). These are heavier than the Jinbao stencils, which is probably why you see them in a lot of school settings...they hold up well. While made in China, their design and manufacturing are managed by John Packer ("we don't do stencils").
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175424707616

    (I'll add some pics later on in this thread.)

    [Note, this is as of the end of Nov 2022]
    The Monzani MZEP-1150 euphonium that musicstore.com sells was mentioned as a good buy in the under $1k range. Let me add my comment to this. I bought one from musicstore.com, and other than a few minor problems that I easily resolved on my own I have been happy with the instrument and the purchase overall.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Valley City, North Dakota, USA
    Posts
    627
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	CC9E6AEA-B784-4B17-A6BE-FB96B66E81E8.jpg 
Views:	17 
Size:	1.97 MB 
ID:	9697
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	44138DA1-5FD1-40E2-80A6-7075C5A410C0.jpeg 
Views:	13 
Size:	3.92 MB 
ID:	9698Click image for larger version. 

Name:	D5C0C82F-8C07-410F-86E2-6AAEBD728E27.jpeg 
Views:	18 
Size:	4.31 MB 
ID:	9699Click image for larger version. 

Name:	D5C0C82F-8C07-410F-86E2-6AAEBD728E27.jpeg 
Views:	18 
Size:	4.31 MB 
ID:	9699Click image for larger version. 

Name:	29DBE15E-17AC-46F2-90F6-4DF4541A95F0.jpeg 
Views:	11 
Size:	4.41 MB 
ID:	9700Click image for larger version. 

Name:	DD3CCA56-2CA3-4585-8867-86BCE3972E73.jpeg 
Views:	10 
Size:	4.33 MB 
ID:	9701
    Euphoniums
    Sterling Virtuoso IV
    John Packer 374LT
    John Packer 274L
    S.E.Shires Q41s

    Larry Herzog Jr.
    Twitter: iMav
    Facebook: iMav
    Email: me@imav.org
    Founder of geekhack.org

    Linktree: iMav


    All things EUPHONIUM! Guilded server

  6. Hi Larry,
    The finish on the Schiller is much darker than the Monzani, and they look to be the same horn just about. I believe you mentioned this before. Is this because the Schiller is nickel plated?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Valley City, North Dakota, USA
    Posts
    627
    Quote Originally Posted by ivanhouston View Post
    Hi Larry,
    The finish on the Schiller is much darker than the Monzani, and they look to be the same horn just about. I believe you mentioned this before. Is this because the Schiller is nickel plated?
    Yep. The nickel-plate is indeed darker…and looks better IMHO.

    although I believe I prefer the non-fingerprint-magnet lacquer finish.
    Euphoniums
    Sterling Virtuoso IV
    John Packer 374LT
    John Packer 274L
    S.E.Shires Q41s

    Larry Herzog Jr.
    Twitter: iMav
    Facebook: iMav
    Email: me@imav.org
    Founder of geekhack.org

    Linktree: iMav


    All things EUPHONIUM! Guilded server

  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Valley City, North Dakota, USA
    Posts
    627
    So, for complete transparency. I recently purchased the following horns, brand new, for these exact "shipped-to-my-door" prices:

    Monzani MZEP-1150S (silver plate) - $646.34
    John Packer JP274L (lacquer) - $1,343.75
    John Packer JP374LT (lacquer, w/ trigger) - $2,821.91

    [and for the "historical record" ]

    Adams E3 Select series (silver plate) - $5,877.00
    Euphoniums
    Sterling Virtuoso IV
    John Packer 374LT
    John Packer 274L
    S.E.Shires Q41s

    Larry Herzog Jr.
    Twitter: iMav
    Facebook: iMav
    Email: me@imav.org
    Founder of geekhack.org

    Linktree: iMav


    All things EUPHONIUM! Guilded server

  9. #9
    What are you planning to do with all those horns? Put them into a rotation? Use one as a "traveling" horn?
    Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL
    Besson New Standard

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Valley City, North Dakota, USA
    Posts
    627
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat View Post
    What are you planning to do with all those horns? Put them into a rotation? Use one as a "traveling" horn?
    May sell the Monzani horn cheap to a local college student looking for a budget-friendly compensating horn (it actually plays and sounds pretty great). Maybe loan out the Schiller or sell it as well.

    Have to see if I like the 274 or the 374 better before I can decide what to do with them.
    Euphoniums
    Sterling Virtuoso IV
    John Packer 374LT
    John Packer 274L
    S.E.Shires Q41s

    Larry Herzog Jr.
    Twitter: iMav
    Facebook: iMav
    Email: me@imav.org
    Founder of geekhack.org

    Linktree: iMav


    All things EUPHONIUM! Guilded server

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •