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  • DaveBj
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1064

    Recovery of chops after lip cancer removal?

    It's official -- I have a skin cancer on my upper lip. I have an appointment to have it removed with my usual face-cutter (a plastic surgeon) the day after Community Band's Christmas concert. The band is on a 6-week hiatus after that, which will give me 4 weeks to heal completely (as recommended), and two weeks to try to get my chops back.If anyone in the group has ever had anything like this done, I would like to read about your experience.


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  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    #2
    Ouch! But I don't see much in the photo. I've never had skin cancer, but I have had several pre-cancerous "things/spots" removed. One was on my lower lip in the edge of the red area. It was frozen off. The spot healed just fine functionally, but that spot is lighter in color (the spot looks white in some lighting, but not so much here in natural light).

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    • DaveBj
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1064

      #3
      This is my 5th or 6th rodeo with facial skin cancer removal, same doc every time. He's a plastic surgeon, and I can't find a single scar from the carving that he has done. Obviously there will be scarring here, because part of the red of the lip is involved.
      David Bjornstad

      1923 Conn New Wonder 86I, Bach 6 1/2 AL
      2018 Wessex EP100 Dolce, Denis Wick 4ABL
      2013 Jinbao JBEP-1111L, Denis Wick 4AM
      2015 Jinbao JBBR-1240, Denis Wick clone mouthpiece of unknown designation
      Cullman (AL) Community Band (Euph Section Leader)
      Brass Band of Huntsville (2nd Bari)

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      • RickF
        Moderator
        • Jan 2006
        • 3869

        #4
        Good luck with the surgery David. It sounds like you have an excellent Dr. to take care of the skin cancer. Living in South FL for over 60 yrs. where the sun seems to always shine, I've had a few skin cancers and numerous pre-cancers removed. I'm guessing you Dr. will perform a 'Mohs' procedure first then what ever is necessary with plastic surgery. I've had two 'Mohs' surgery that left no scaring but never performed on my lips. I do have a lesion on my lower lip that I was concerned about a few years ago. My dermatologist diagnosed it as a 'venous lake' which is a benign vascular tumor. Thankfully no action was required.

        I wish you all the best in your recovery.
        Last edited by RickF; 11-18-2022, 04:43 PM.
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        • hyperbolica
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          • Feb 2018
          • 133

          #5
          I have an older friend who had an operation on his lower lip. He hasn't fared as well. He had a big needle inserted into his lower lip, and it has been the lasting effects from the needle rather than the main procedure that has left him in a bit of pain when he plays. But it sounds like your Dr. has all of this under control. Best of luck.

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          • DaveBj
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1064

            #6
            Surgery was two days ago, and it's feeling better all the time. Mostly I don't even notice it, but if I stretch my upper lip over my teeth, that pulls on the stitches, and I can feel it. He did a short vertical cut, five stitches to close; they come out a week from today. There's still what feels like a little numb spot at the lower end of the incision, but it's been only two days; lots of time for that to clear up.
            David Bjornstad

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            2018 Wessex EP100 Dolce, Denis Wick 4ABL
            2013 Jinbao JBEP-1111L, Denis Wick 4AM
            2015 Jinbao JBBR-1240, Denis Wick clone mouthpiece of unknown designation
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            • aroberts781
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              • Sep 2014
              • 288

              #7
              Glad to hear you're doing well post-surgery, Dave. I wish you a speedy recovery and hope you're playing again soon!
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              • davewerden
                Administrator
                • Nov 2005
                • 11136

                #8
                Sounds like you are on a good track. Just behave yourself and don't rush it! We who enjoy playing can find it very difficult to not just jump back into difficult stuff. Patience and a methodical approach will be rewarded.
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                • RickF
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3869

                  #9
                  Glad to hear the surgery went well and it’s healing well. Be patient on getting back to playing.
                  Rick Floyd
                  Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                  "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                  Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                  El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
                  The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
                  Festive Overture(Dmitri Shostakovich)
                  ​

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                  • DaveBj
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1064

                    #10
                    Patience is indeed the keyword. The doc agrees with the advice that I have been given -- massage therapy after the stitches come out, and wait a full month from the date of the op before starting up again.
                    David Bjornstad

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                    2018 Wessex EP100 Dolce, Denis Wick 4ABL
                    2013 Jinbao JBEP-1111L, Denis Wick 4AM
                    2015 Jinbao JBBR-1240, Denis Wick clone mouthpiece of unknown designation
                    Cullman (AL) Community Band (Euph Section Leader)
                    Brass Band of Huntsville (2nd Bari)

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                    • John Morgan
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                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1884

                      #11
                      Glad to hear things are going well. Get better soon, David!
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                      • DaveBj
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1064

                        #12
                        Stitches are out. It was a basal cell carcinoma with clean edges, which means that Doc S got it all. Now I'm giving myself about three weeks of massage, and then I can start blowing again. Easy does it.
                        David Bjornstad

                        1923 Conn New Wonder 86I, Bach 6 1/2 AL
                        2018 Wessex EP100 Dolce, Denis Wick 4ABL
                        2013 Jinbao JBEP-1111L, Denis Wick 4AM
                        2015 Jinbao JBBR-1240, Denis Wick clone mouthpiece of unknown designation
                        Cullman (AL) Community Band (Euph Section Leader)
                        Brass Band of Huntsville (2nd Bari)

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                        • davewerden
                          Administrator
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 11136

                          #13
                          I'm glad it's going smoothly! A few weeks off practice is not so bad, right?
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                          • DaveBj
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1064

                            #14
                            Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                            I'm glad it's going smoothly! A few weeks off practice is not so bad, right?
                            Not bad at all. When I started up again in 2005, I had been inactive for 17 years
                            David Bjornstad

                            1923 Conn New Wonder 86I, Bach 6 1/2 AL
                            2018 Wessex EP100 Dolce, Denis Wick 4ABL
                            2013 Jinbao JBEP-1111L, Denis Wick 4AM
                            2015 Jinbao JBBR-1240, Denis Wick clone mouthpiece of unknown designation
                            Cullman (AL) Community Band (Euph Section Leader)
                            Brass Band of Huntsville (2nd Bari)

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