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  • UglyGrayDuck
    Member
    • Sep 2022
    • 61

    Wick 4AL vs SM4

    Hey folks, I am curious about what the difference is between the regular 4al and the Steven Mead mouthpiece? Is it a big difference?

    Sorry if there's already a thread on here somewhere about this same subject!
    Nicholas
    Shires Q41s
    Alliance DC3/K&G 4+
  • TheJH
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 339

    #2
    The SM4 has a rounder rim and a more funnel-shaped cup. For me the SM4 gives me a darker, rounder sound whereas the 4AL gives me a more open sound.
    Euphoniums
    2008 Willson 2960TA Celebration
    1979 Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign (Round Stamp)
    Mouthpiece: Denis Wick SM4
    Baritone
    1975 Besson New Standard
    Mouthpiece: Courtois 10

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    • highpitch
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 1034

      #3
      I tried several SM- series MP's.

      One has to have real tough chops to make them work for you. Hours a day tough chops.

      Nope.

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      • Pat
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 399

        #4
        I used an SM4 several years ago and didn't find that it brought me anything that I didn't already have with my 4AL, so I gravitated back to the 4AL.
        Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL

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        • davewerden
          Administrator
          • Nov 2005
          • 11136

          #5
          Here is a video doing a quick comparison of the 4AL and the SM4. FWIW, I agree that the SM is less open sounding, but has a tighter core (those 2 things kinda go together). I had never noticed the SM4 being harder to play.

          https://youtu.be/X3caV2-5ZZA

          Dave Werden (ASCAP)
          Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
          Adams Artist (Adams E3)
          Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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          • aroberts781
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 288

            #6
            I don't have any direct experience comparing the 4AL to the SM4, but I did spend a lot of time switching between a 3AL and SM3U. My experience was that the SM3U felt a little smaller on the face, and it also seemed like a more focused, narrow, direct sort of sound than the 3AL. I think that is more or less what Dave describes as an open sound to the 4AL and a tighter core to the SM4.

            I liked the SM3U because I felt that it helped my flexibility and articulation, but I ended up sticking with the 3AL after I did some blind play tests for friends and the result was unanimously in favor of the 3AL.
            1976 Besson 3-valve New Standard, DE102/I/I8
            1969 Conn 88H, Schilke 51

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