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  • miketeachesclass
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 461

    Identifying a Besson Sovereign (1980's)

    A friend of mine just bought a horn from Dillon that he was told is a Besson Sovereign. The serial number he was provided puts it at 1985.

    However, the bell doesn't have any engraving at all on it (no manufacturer, no model), and he can't locate the serial number anywhere on the horn.

    The valve block and horn construction certainly LOOKS like a sovereign.

    Was there a period of time that Besson did not engrave either Besson, B&H, the model number, or the serial number on the horn?

    Thanks!
    Mike
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band
  • miketeachesclass
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 461

    #2
    Anyone have any info?
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

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    • highpitch
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 1034

      #3
      Could be a horn leftover when they closed the works, never got it's written pedigree.

      Or a test/development mule.

      DG

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      • davewerden
        Administrator
        • Nov 2005
        • 11136

        #4
        Originally posted by highpitch View Post
        Or a test/development mule.
        DG
        I like the mule idea! Around the mid 1980's Besson sent me a 967 to test. It had a revised bottom bow. But I can't recall if it had a logo on the bell.
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        • miketeachesclass
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2016
          • 461

          #5
          That’s an interesting thought!
          Mike Taylor

          Illinois Brass Band
          Fox Valley Brass Band

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          • anadmai
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2022
            • 266

            #6
            I have a 1988 967 and the serial number is on the bell.
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