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  • anadmai
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2022
    • 266

    2nd Baritone Jokes. Bring out your best.

    -During rehearsal, Bandmaster says to me “2nd Baritone, treat it like a solo” to my reply “what’s a solo? We don’t see many of them down in these here parts..how many beats should I rest?”.

    -Last night someone called the euphoniums “baritones” and I overheard them, corrected them and said “2nd Baritones are the watchdog of the section. We have so much free time we take up a second job as surveillance.”

    -What’s the difference between a baritone player and a euphonium player? The baritone player doesn’t complain about being called a euphonium.

    Back in the early 90s I started to write “102 things to do while playing 2nd Baritone”. Somewhere in storage are my notes. In the meantime. Let’s hear your 2nd Baritone jokes.

    I’m a big girl. I can take it.
    DANA


    Meet the Family
    Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
    Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
    Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
    Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
    Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


    New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
    Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
    Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-
  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    #2
    I don't have any related jokes, to offer, but...

    Interestingly, I think that more than any other post I can think of, this one really points out a difference in culture. Most of us who grew up in the concert band culture seldom saw any non-unified parts! It's actually a personal pet peeve of mine that concert band composers seem afraid to offer either 1st and 2nd parts or divisi parts more often.

    But I can offer some semi-related humor from the Salvation Army's Chicago Staff Band: "Solo Secondo" (about the 2nd tenor horn parts):

    Solo Secondo (MP3 file)

    You will probably need to boost volume to hear the talking that starts it out. It's from a live concert and was not ideally mic'd.
    Last edited by davewerden; 07-29-2022, 09:51 AM.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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    Facebook: davewerden
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    • anadmai
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2022
      • 266

      #3
      I love SOLO SECONDO!!! Haven't been in a group playing it in over 30 years. Good memories.

      My ex and I were discussing our Army past and after passing certain recordings back and forth admitted we grew up very spoiled when it came to music. Our "church" had music most others couldn't touch by a mile. As much as I despise The Salvation Army today, the music is still an important part of my life. Now that I'm back in the brass band world, I've learned to separate the love from the loathing.

      But for 2nd Baritone... gracious. Told my friend last night after rehearsal, "I hope you dont' think all my jokes about 2nd Baritone mean I don't like the chair...oh, it's quite the opposite. I take all the jokes with a sense of Pride. Someone has to make them".

      The recording is amazing. The memories. I can't stop laughing. Bill Himes is such a funny human being.
      DANA


      Meet the Family
      Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
      Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
      Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
      Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
      Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


      New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
      Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
      Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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      • anadmai
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2022
        • 266

        #4
        Back in 1989, Harold Burgmayer wrote a piece called "Odds and Endings".. It just featured the low brass. Baritones/Euphs/Tubas.. It was so much fun.. Need to find a recording of it somewhere.
        Last edited by anadmai; 07-29-2022, 09:54 AM.
        DANA


        Meet the Family
        Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
        Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
        Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
        Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
        Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


        New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
        Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
        Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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        • davewerden
          Administrator
          • Nov 2005
          • 11136

          #5
          Originally posted by anadmai View Post
          Oh and It's the Chicago Staff Band on the recording.
          Just a slip of the brain as I was typing - I made the reference more clear in my post above. Thanks!

          Bill Himes was indeed a fine person. I met him in 1978 after he performed a solo; then many years later we had reason to correspond quite a bit and he was very helpful and patient. Of course, he was a wonderful euphonium player, too!

          There a few recordings of his solo work on my YouTube channel:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOQ8...kG8Fe2iNdVlFoF
          Dave Werden (ASCAP)
          Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
          Adams Artist (Adams E3)
          Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
          YouTube: dwerden
          Facebook: davewerden
          Twitter: davewerden
          Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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          • highpitch
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 1034

            #6
            Best I can offer (a bit off topic) is when I say I play the euphonium, then they ask what is that?

            I reply it is a baritone you spend a lot of money on.

            DG

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            • anadmai
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2022
              • 266

              #7
              ain't that the truth.
              DANA


              Meet the Family
              Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
              Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
              Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
              Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
              Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


              New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
              Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
              Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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              • anadmai
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 266

                #8
                I need to find a composer with a sense of humor who'd do one for second baritone. One part would to show the audience my proficiency at counting rests. Off beats would be the next technical flourish followed by a Euphonium Solo where I watch with fangirl amazement, only to forget when I come in next. Working title.. "Wanted Hearts".

                Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                Just a slip of the brain as I was typing - I made the reference more clear in my post above. Thanks!

                Bill Himes was indeed a fine person. I met him in 1978 after he performed a solo; then many years later we had reason to correspond quite a bit and he was very helpful and patient. Of course, he was a wonderful euphonium player, too!

                There a few recordings of his solo work on my YouTube channel:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOQ8...kG8Fe2iNdVlFoF
                DANA


                Meet the Family
                Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
                Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
                Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
                Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
                Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


                New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
                Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
                Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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                • RickF
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3869

                  #9
                  Originally posted by davewerden View Post
                  I don't have any related jokes, to offer, but...
                  <snip>
                  But I can offer some semi-related humor from the Salvation Army's Chicago Staff Band: "Solo Secondo" (about the 2nd tenor horn parts):

                  Solo Secondo (MP3 file)

                  You will probably need to boost volume to hear the talking that starts it out. It's from a live concert and was not ideally mic'd.
                  Too funny!

                  I went looking for a video of Salvation Army's Chicago Staff Band but no luck. Did find a decent one by the Natural State Brass Band in Arkansas linked below. The dialog is more audible. I loved it when the soloist took out a huge towel to dry his chops and brow. After all, those mid range F sharps (concert E) can be tough.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=levuF973w8s
                  Last edited by RickF; 07-29-2022, 11:30 AM.
                  Rick Floyd
                  Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                  "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                  Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                  El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
                  The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
                  Festive Overture(Dmitri Shostakovich)

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                  • anadmai
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2022
                    • 266

                    #10
                    I saw that too. They used some of the dialogue from the CSB. I’ve been laughing at this all day.
                    DANA


                    Meet the Family
                    Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
                    Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
                    Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
                    Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
                    Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


                    New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
                    Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
                    Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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                    • dsurkin
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 526

                      #11
                      Originally posted by anadmai View Post
                      [snip]-What’s the difference between a baritone player and a euphonium player? The baritone player doesn’t complain about being called a euphonium.[snip]
                      I took the liberty of posting this to my Facebook page (with full attribution to Des and to this forum). I pointed it out to Walter Barrett, who is first chair euphonium in the Westchester Band (that's Westchester County, NY for Des and all others who live near West Chester, PA). The conductor has frequently credited Wally's solos by saying "and Walter Barrett on baritone." Wally once made a sign that he used to hold up after such announcements: "It's a euphonium, not a baritone."

                      Wally actually bought a baritone a few years ago (I think it is a Jin Bao model) that he used for his solo in Lincolnshire Posy.
                      Dean L. Surkin
                      Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
                      Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
                      Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
                      See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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                      • anadmai
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2022
                        • 266

                        #12
                        The 2nd Baritone should be the one who hands the euphonium player the sign.
                        DANA


                        Meet the Family
                        Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
                        Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
                        Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
                        Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
                        Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


                        New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
                        Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
                        Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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                        • dsurkin
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 526

                          #13
                          Originally posted by anadmai View Post
                          The 2nd Baritone should be the one who hands the euphonium player the sign.
                          Good point, but we play in a symphonic wind band, so we're all euphoniums. And since it's an amateur group (section leaders are all pros), there are no two euphoniums of the same make or model.
                          Dean L. Surkin
                          Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
                          Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
                          Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
                          See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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                          • anadmai
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2022
                            • 266

                            #14
                            Oh that's right.

                            Originally posted by dsurkin View Post
                            Good point, but we play in a symphonic wind band, so we're all euphoniums. And since it's an amateur group (section leaders are all pros), there are no two euphoniums of the same make or model.
                            DANA


                            Meet the Family
                            Junior - Euphonium - 1906 - Henry Distin Mfg.
                            Hastings - Trombone - 1952 - Boosey and Hawkes
                            Bramwell - Euphonium - 1988 - Besson/Boosey and Hawkes (BE967)
                            Margaret - Baritone - 2015 - Sterling1050HS
                            Albert - Eb Bass - 2023 - Dillon 981S


                            New York Staff Band - 2nd Baritone - 1991-1994
                            Philadelphia Freedom Band - Euphonium
                            Lancaster British Brass Band (all hail the 2nd baritone) - 2022-

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                            • Snorlax
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1003

                              #15
                              Prof

                              Here's a variation on the theme: I actually VOLUNTEERED to play 2nd baritone.
                              In 1988-89 I was in Grantham, Lincolnshire as an exchange professor of finance.
                              I had been solo euph in the Indianapolis Brass Choir for a few years.
                              When I got settled in Grantham, I discovered that there was a 4th-section band in town,
                              and brought my euph along to have a blow with them.
                              I discovered that the band rehearsed in an upstairs room in the Tudor Rose Pub in Grantham,
                              and that the owner kept the band's pint glasses full during rehearsals--totally gratis.
                              So when the MD asked if I'd like to dep (sub) with the band, I said "only if I can play 2nd baritone
                              so I can take maximal advantage of the proprietor's generosity."
                              The band finished near the bottom of the 4th section at the 1989 regionals, finishing below
                              arch-rival Skegness, and eventually ceased to exist at some point, but my fond memories of
                              that time persist. ;-)
                              Last edited by Snorlax; 08-02-2022, 12:06 PM.
                              Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meter CW)
                              Formerly Principal Euphonium in a whole
                              bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
                              Shires Q41, Yamaha 321, 621 Baritone
                              Wick 4AL, Wessex 4Y, or whatever I grab.
                              Conn 50H trombone, Blue P-bone
                              www.soundcloud.com/jweuph

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