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  • comebackplayer
    Member
    • Feb 2022
    • 86

    Wick 4AM--what is it?

    I bought a Jupiter 3 valve baritone and it came with two mouthpieces, the stock Jupiter piece and a gold-plated Wick 4am. I keep reading vague descriptions ("classic, affordable euphonium mouthpiece"). It doesn't insert into my Euphonium more than a few millimeters. Does anyone know if this is a medium or large shank mouthpiece? I actually only currently have small shank instruments, but thought it might be worth buying if I move up to large shank.
    Jupiter 462 & 470, XO 1270
    Stork 4.5 mouthpiece
  • franz
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 392

    #2
    It is a medium shank, suitable for old pre 1974 euphoniums. If you don't have that type of instrument you cannot use it as it is too big to fit into small shanks receivers and too small for large shank receivers, unless it is utilized with a wide receiver adapter or you can thin the stem into a small shank.

    http://www.dwerden.com/forum/entry.p...ank-Euphoniums
    Last edited by franz; 05-17-2022, 05:04 AM.
    2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.

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    • comebackplayer
      Member
      • Feb 2022
      • 86

      #3
      Thank you--I didn't totally understand medium shank before. I'd actually been interested in a Willson on the local market a couple of months ago. I suppose I will put it in my "drawer'o mouthpieces" or sell it on. It's in very good condition, although it looks like the silver under the gold has tarnished.
      Jupiter 462 & 470, XO 1270
      Stork 4.5 mouthpiece

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      • Shinn
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 277

        #4
        Here’s a link to a comparison chart on the Denis Wick web site.

        https://www.deniswick.com/wp-content...ison-Chart.pdf
        David Shinn
        Peninsula Concert Band
        Yorktown, Virginia



        1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
        1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
        1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
        1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


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        • comebackplayer
          Member
          • Feb 2022
          • 86

          #5
          Thank you for the wick page. I'd found it and the description there is just "Pre-1974 B&H and Willson." If it had said something like "medium shank" I would have understood. It came with a student euphonium so I wonder if the person just ordered wrong.
          Jupiter 462 & 470, XO 1270
          Stork 4.5 mouthpiece

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