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Thread: Wick 4AM--what is it?

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    Wick 4AM--what is it?

    I bought a Jupiter 3 valve baritone and it came with two mouthpieces, the stock Jupiter piece and a gold-plated Wick 4am. I keep reading vague descriptions ("classic, affordable euphonium mouthpiece"). It doesn't insert into my Euphonium more than a few millimeters. Does anyone know if this is a medium or large shank mouthpiece? I actually only currently have small shank instruments, but thought it might be worth buying if I move up to large shank.

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    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    It is a medium shank, suitable for old pre 1974 euphoniums. If you don't have that type of instrument you cannot use it as it is too big to fit into small shanks receivers and too small for large shank receivers, unless it is utilized with a wide receiver adapter or you can thin the stem into a small shank.
    Last edited by franz; 05-17-2022 at 05:04 AM.
    Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone,4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves 1974, 3D K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba 3D K&G modified mouthpiece.

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    Thank you--I didn't totally understand medium shank before. I'd actually been interested in a Willson on the local market a couple of months ago. I suppose I will put it in my "drawer'o mouthpieces" or sell it on. It's in very good condition, although it looks like the silver under the gold has tarnished.

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    Join Date
    Feb 2020
    Yorktown, Virginia
    Here’s a link to a comparison chart on the Denis Wick web site.
    David Shinn
    Peninsula Concert Band
    Yorktown, Virginia

    1971 Besson ‘New Standard’ 181 Euphonium (4 valve compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
    1960 Besson ‘New Standard’ 180 Euphonium (4 valve compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
    1962 Besson ‘New Standard’ 176 Euphonium (3 valve compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
    1979 Besson 'New Standard' 168 Baritone (3 valve compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S

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    Thank you for the wick page. I'd found it and the description there is just "Pre-1974 B&H and Willson." If it had said something like "medium shank" I would have understood. It came with a student euphonium so I wonder if the person just ordered wrong.


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