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  • Roger
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 211

    Practice regimen

    My apologies for the length of my post. As an amateur, I'm always looking for tweaks/enhancements to my practice regimen. When our community band is active, I always have a folder of music for the bulk of my practice. But in the off season, it's daily routines, working through a combination of David Vining's books, Arban, the Brass Gym, and exercises of my own development. After a thorough warm up, I vary the order of exercises so that I'm working the different aspects of playing either early, mid, or late in my practice. My question is do any of you find it most effective to vary the work on each aspect of your playing? For example, working on flexibility sometimes early, sometimes in the middle and sometimes late in your workout. I find that anything worked on toward the end of my practice before my final cool-down suffers somewhat just due to fatigue. So I'll move things around so that no aspect of my playing is always worked early, mid or late. Do most of you vary the order of drills/exercises within each practice session? Hopefully, my question is clear.
  • Richard III
    Member
    • Nov 2019
    • 142

    #2
    There is a world of solos out there. Why not assemble a large collection that is not only music, but demanding of all the skills you need? I've never understood maintaining a boring schedule of exercises.
    Richard


    King 1130 Flugabone
    King 2280 Euphonium
    King 10J Tuba
    Conn 22B Trumpet

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    • John Morgan
      Moderator
      • Apr 2014
      • 1884

      #3
      Roger,

      I have the luxury of being retired, and I have my euphonium and tenor and bass trombones sitting in their stands in my music room, always "at the ready". So, the first playing I do on any day is a warmup routine. Long tones, slurs, scales and the like. If I am working on a solo or a gnarly piece of music, I go to that after warming up. Later in the day, I will usually come back to my horn(s), do a brief re-warmup, then work on some aspect of my playing I want to improve, increase, develop, etc. If I am not working on any particular piece of music, I will go to this directly after my first warmup routine.

      I have found that it is best to tackle the most difficult piece you are working on early in a practice session, rather than saving it for last when you might be getting tired. In working on just exercises and drills, I think this is also true. There is a sweet spot in my practice routine where I probably sound the best and am technically sharpest. For me, this happens after I am fully, fully warmed up and have been working on a piece of music or an exercise. It is usually 30 minutes or so from when I first pick up my horn. At this sweet spot I will play my toughest piece or most technical exercise.

      I don't necessarily vary the order of exercises each day, but rather focus on the harder things early or the things that I really, really want to improve on. I also don't wait until the very end of a session to work on my upper range. I am careful how I do upper range stuff in any session or on any given day in that I don't want to trash or wear out my chops before I get done with all the particular things I want to work on.

      If there is a very particular exercise or technique that I am working on, for instance, triple tonguing, I will put this early in any practice session, then probably repeat it later in the session. In fact, I am right now working on something where I want my triple tonguing to be as fast as possible, so I do exercises for this multiple times throughout my practice session. If I were to spend the whole session doing the tonguing, then after a while it would be, how do they say it on Star Trek, futile! Your tongue would just start shutting down. So, using the tonguing as an example, it seems you cannot spend a whole session in one area. Playing chromatic scales is another example. I play those every day at some point, and I will spend a few minutes doing various chromatic exercises. But when I play those very fast for a while, my fingers get tired and a little painful actually. So, I can only do those for so long. This is another example of where I might do some aspect multiple times in a session for a short time each occurrence.

      When I stop and really think about how I approach playing and practice over time, I am probably not as regimented as the above might suggest. I sometimes just do whatever the heck I feel like at any given moment on any given day. But if I am trying to be very serious about my practice time, then I do try to put some order and regimentation into my practice sessions.
      John Morgan
      The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
      Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
      1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
      Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
      Year Round Except Summer:
      Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
      KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
      Summer Only:
      Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
      Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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      • Roger
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 211

        #4
        Both responses are appreciated and helpful, thanks Richard and John. I understand one size doesn't fit all, so I need to work on what improves my playing and increases my enjoyment of this very special avocation of making beautiful sounds.

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        • ann reid
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2019
          • 193

          #5
          Go to bandmusicpdf and pick out a few Sousa Marches or overtures or anything by Holst, Grainger, Vaughan Williams et al, print out the euphonium parts or the baritone parts and give ‘em a go!

          GUARANTEED to last through the winter and longer!

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          • Richard III
            Member
            • Nov 2019
            • 142

            #6
            I should have asked this before. If you read treble clef, there is a huge amount of turn of the century cornet music free.
            Richard


            King 1130 Flugabone
            King 2280 Euphonium
            King 10J Tuba
            Conn 22B Trumpet

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            • Shinn
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2020
              • 277

              #7
              Originally posted by ann reid View Post
              Go to bandmusicpdf and pick out a few Sousa Marches or overtures or anything by Holst, Grainger, Vaughan Williams et al, print out the euphonium parts or the baritone parts and give ‘em a go!

              GUARANTEED to last through the winter and longer!
              I purchased some recordings of Sousa marches and now have them on my iPhone. The free sheet music is in the same key as the recordings so I can ‘virtually’ be in a band while listening to the songs on a pair of speakers connected to my iPhone via Bluetooth. This helped to add a lot of fun to my daily practices when the pandemic kept our concert band from rehearsing together!
              Last edited by Shinn; 01-19-2022, 04:36 PM.
              David Shinn
              Peninsula Concert Band
              Yorktown, Virginia



              1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
              1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
              1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
              1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


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              • franz
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2015
                • 392

                #8
                Originally posted by Shinn View Post
                I purchased some recordings of Sousa marches and now have them on my iPhone. The free sheet music is in the same key as the recordings so I can ‘virtually’ be in a band while listening to the songs on a pair of speakers connected to my iPhone via Bluetooth. This helped to add a lot of fun to my daily practices when the pandemic kept our concert band from rehearsing together!
                From this link you can download for free the parts and audio of all the Sousa's marches: good practice and guaranteed fun.

                https://www.marineband.marines.mil/P...-27-092217-827
                Last edited by franz; 01-19-2022, 07:46 PM.
                2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.

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                • BDeisinger
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 233

                  #9
                  A good etude book that I use for practice is 40 Progressive Studies for Trombone (bass clef) by H.W. Terrell. Don't know if it's still in print but my euphonium teacher in college had me buy it. (It was $1.25 then). I got back to using it when I bought a compensator and had to rethink the 4th valve with the left hand. It's been over 50 years that I've had the book and there are still a few that I'm working on that I never played. As you said, the community bands aren't rehearsing now due to COVID so I guess we have to find motivation and material to practice.
                  B&S 3046 Baritone/Euphonium
                  Wessex Festivo
                  B&S PT37-S
                  Schilke ST20 Tenor Trombone
                  Jupiter XO Double valve bass trombone

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                  • dsurkin
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 526

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BDeisinger View Post
                    A good etude book that I use for practice is 40 Progressive Studies for Trombone (bass clef) by H.W. Terrell. Don't know if it's still in print but my euphonium teacher in college had me buy it. (It was $1.25 then). I got back to using it when I bought a compensator and had to rethink the 4th valve with the left hand. It's been over 50 years that I've had the book and there are still a few that I'm working on that I never played. As you said, the community bands aren't rehearsing now due to COVID so I guess we have to find motivation and material to practice.
                    The Tyrell book is still in print. My teacher had me start working on it just this past year. https://www.amazon.com/progressive-s.../dp/B0007IXI72
                    Dean L. Surkin
                    Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
                    Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
                    Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
                    See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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                    • aroberts781
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 288

                      #11
                      It is a little funny to see the Tyrell book come up. I don't currently use it a lot, but I have a copy from when I was in high school because a lot of our All State audition etudes came out of there. Every now and then I will play some of the ones that are particularly etched into my brain. Perhaps I should use it more often!

                      In an unrelated note on All State etudes, every now and then I watch people playing examples of All State etudes that they post on YouTube, and I feel like they are way harder than the ones I was playing 20 years ago! I could be wrong but that is my perception anyways. Kudos to any high schoolers working those up!
                      1976 Besson 3-valve New Standard, DE102/I/I8
                      1969 Conn 88H, Schilke 51

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