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Thread: Needing advice on a Euphonium upgrade

  1. #21
    Ollie,

    You might want to take a look at this item for sale, a Conn Connstellation. It's the top of the American front-valve euphonium breed. It needs some dent work but might make a very good horn to play in band for a reasonable price (if bidding does not get out of hand):

    http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthr...alve-Euphonium
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  2. #22
    Thanks for everyone's advice. It sounds like the overall approach would be to try as many different ones as I can and then focus in on what fits the best. I probably check out the Adams Sonic first. Bessons are a bit out of my price range. Ollie

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    Undeniably, the Adams Sonic is a very impressive euphonium. Here is Mauro Martins playing the Sonata in F by Benedetto Marcello on an Adams Sonic:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ie...&start_radio=1

    Admittedly, I am impressed as much by Martins's musicianship as I am by Sonic.

    Best regards, Guido
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    A Besson New Standard 3-valve compensating euphonium was listed today on eBay.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/203816755811
    David Shinn
    Peninsula Concert Band
    Yorktown, Virginia



    1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
    1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
    1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
    1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


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  5. Hello everyone. Happy New Year!

    It is always a time for reflection. And I realized that have been remiss in not posting about how things turned out, should anyone be interested.

    It was surprising how few instruments are available, especially up here in Canada. And the thought of buying something sight unseen from eBay etc. made me pretty nervous. So, I ended up purchasing a 1980 B&H Imperial 4 valve compensating euphonium from Duchy Brass in the UK. It was a great move - highly recommended. The instrument had undergone a professional refurbishment, came with a nice hardshell case and two mouthpieces. Even with the exchange rate and shipping the total seemed very competitive, with the added comfort of knowing it was coming from a reputable dealer.

    As for the instrument, I couldn't be more pleased. It's a huge step up from my beater of a Yamaha YEP 201. The large bore and fourth valve have taken some getting used to. But I am starting to feel like I am making music. Sometimes, at least.

    Thanks again to everyone for your thoughtful support.


    Best Regards,


    Mike Hodgins

  6. Mike,

    Good choice! Both in the instrument and in doing business with Duchy! Straight from Cornwall to you!

    Doug
    Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
    Concord Band
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    Quote Originally Posted by guidocorona View Post
    Undeniably, the Adams Sonic is a very impressive euphonium. Here is Mauro Martins playing the Sonata in F by Benedetto Marcello on an Adams Sonic:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5ie...&start_radio=1

    Admittedly, I am impressed as much by Martins's musicianship as I am by Sonic.

    Best regards, Guido
    Asking this question out of my relative ignorance- isn’t this an example of playing a non-compensating euphonium with close to impeccable intonation?

    If so, can students be taught to play with better to excellent intonation before stepping up to a compensating horn?

    I recently found a professional recording of a high school band, made in 1964, and the intonation is very VERY GOOD, if not excellent. The musicality is immature, but the intonation is spot on. NO ONE in the low brass section was playing a compensated horn, and no one in my college wind ensemble (also early 60s) played one. And the ensemble intonation in my college ensembles was also VERY GOOD.

    Are the pillars of music instruction (tone, finger technique, intonation, musicality) being provided differently from all those years ago when I was a kid? Can’t playing in tune be taught?

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