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Thread: English Besson 2051 allegedly owned by Demondrae

  1. #11
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    Mike, I think Dave knows me pretty well. You suffer from the "hoarder" affliction, too??!! My illness extends to other instruments as well, sigh....
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, Wessex EP-100 Dolce Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium
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    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)

  2. #12
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    I'd report this to eBay.

    This guy is milking a falsehood.

    DG
    1966 Besson 181 highly modified New Standard
    1915 York Bb tenorhorn original
    2019 Wessex Tornister

  3. #13
    The ad says "previously played and hand selected by the Sotto Voce Tuba Quartet". If it was patrick's horn, that is true. I did reach out to Patrick via email - we'll see if I get a response.

    Quote Originally Posted by highpitch View Post
    I'd report this to eBay.

    This guy is milking a falsehood.

    DG
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by John Morgan View Post
    Mike, I think Dave knows me pretty well. You suffer from the "hoarder" affliction, too??!! My illness extends to other instruments as well, sigh....
    I'll send you a photo of my studio - my guitar collection makes my horn collection look like a starter kit.
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

  5. #15
    Unrelated to the ad itself, it's worth noting that this horn would have the "wider" 3rd valve slide spacing that makes accessing the 4th valve more difficult for some.
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

  6. Quote Originally Posted by miketeachesclass View Post
    Unrelated to the ad itself, it's worth noting that this horn would have the "wider" 3rd valve slide spacing that makes accessing the 4th valve more difficult for some.
    My early 2007 German built 2051 also had that gap. The change to the newer wrap didn't occur until 2011 or so (I think).

    Doug
    Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
    Sterling Virtuoso 1065HGS - 300mm red brass bell
    Concord Band
    Winchendon Winds
    Townsend Military Band

  7. #17
    Here is the conversation I had with the seller after pointing this mistake out. I didn't respond to him as I'm not interested in the horn but so you all know what his thoughts were.
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    Adams E3 0.6 with SS Bell
    K&G 3.5D
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    Founder and Solo Euphonium
    San Francisco Brass Band

  8. #18
    I'm meeting this guy on Saturday to check this horn out. Maybe it's a dog, maybe it's great. Will report back.
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by miketeachesclass View Post
    I'm meeting this guy on Saturday to check this horn out. Maybe it's a dog, maybe it's great. Will report back.
    Mike,

    Did anything come out of your trial? The horn is gone from Ebay, so I'm guessing it isn't for sale anymore.

    Tom

  10. #20
    I did end up buying it, for less than the advertised price.

    I had a thorough cleaning done, and replaced all the bumpers and springs. It plays well.
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

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