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  • stevevaughn
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 61

    New Mercer and Barker Review - MB4 & MB4F

    Hey everyone,

    I just got back from a weekend at the US Open in Kansas City. They had both models of the new Mercer and Barker mouthpieces there to try, and figured I would offer my thoughts on them.

    The 2 models have the same rim size as a typical Wick 4 mouthpiece. The major difference between the MB4 and MB4F is the cup shape. The MB4F is more of a funnel shaped mouthpiece, and the MB4 is more like a cup shape.

    I preferred the MB4F over the MB4. The 4F had more brilliance and clarity to the sound, whereas I felt the 4 seemed a bit hollow, although with a darker sound. I felt like I was fighting with the 4 when playing above middle Bb, and the 4F had a more even feel when going across the range of the instrument.

    I ended up purchasing the MB4F to try it out, and as I play more with it I can provide additional comments.

    Overall, I felt both mouthpieces made the horn sing more than either a Wick SM Ultra (haven’t played the X series or XR) or an Alliance mouthpiece. Both models are a great mouthpiece for brass band players or anyone wanting a warm sound that also has great core and presence.

    I highly recommend you try them out! Brian Dobbins is handling US orders and is a pleasure to work with!
    Last edited by stevevaughn; 11-21-2021, 05:48 PM.
    Steven Vaughn, D.M.A.
    Professor of Tuba & Euphonium, University of Northern Colorado

    Principal Tuba - Fort Collins Symphony
    Euphonium - Fountain City Brass Band

    Eastman 836 CC Tuba
    Meinl Weston 2182W F Tuba
    Besson 2052 Euphonium
  • guidocorona
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2018
    • 483

    #2
    Hi Steve, MB4F sounds very interesting... Hope that you will eventually record a video contrasting MB4F and your SM4U!

    Regards, Guido
    Last edited by guidocorona; 11-22-2021, 04:23 PM.
    M5050L - DC2&3, SM2&4U, BT16, Carbonaria Heavy & New
    Wessex EP104 Festivo - available
    Carolbrass CCR7772 Bb cornet - Available

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    • miketeachesclass
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 461

      #3
      I have an early example of this piece - it’s marked MB5F, but I confirmed with M&B that they relabeled the piece as the MB4F. To me, it feels like it plays just a bit small for a “4” size piece.

      They indicated they will be developing additional sizes early next year.

      Mike

      Originally posted by guidocorona View Post
      Hi Steve, MB4F sounds very interesting... Hope that you will eventually record a video contrasting MB4F and your SM4U!

      Regards, Guido
      Mike Taylor

      Illinois Brass Band
      Fox Valley Brass Band

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      • bayoung36
        Member
        • Feb 2022
        • 55

        #4
        I've been playing on the SM4U for around 3 years now. I loved the sound on my old Yamaha, but now that I've moved to an Adams it doesn't have the same ring to it. The endurance, flexibility, and comfort is amazing, but I feel like it lacks a warm/dark core that I'm looking for. I also recently tried the new Griego BB1BT Mouthpiece, but while the core and darkness was there, it cut into my face too much to be comfortable.

        So compared to those 2 mouthpieces, how does The Mercer and Barker compare?
        Adams E1 Gold Brass Bell and SS Leadpipe
        Undergrad at Angelo State
        Future TA at University of Oklahoma

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        • guidocorona
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2018
          • 483

          #5
          Hello Steve Vaughn, I just noticed that you are selling your Mercer&Barker MB4F mouthpiece...

          What mouthpiece are you now favoring for your Shires Q40?

          And how is such new(?) MP working better for you than the MB4F?

          Thanks, Guido
          M5050L - DC2&3, SM2&4U, BT16, Carbonaria Heavy & New
          Wessex EP104 Festivo - available
          Carolbrass CCR7772 Bb cornet - Available

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          • stevevaughn
            Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 61

            #6
            Originally posted by guidocorona View Post
            Hello Steve Vaughn, I just noticed that you are selling your Mercer&Barker MB4F mouthpiece...

            What mouthpiece are you now favoring for your Shires Q40?

            And how is such new(?) MP working better for you than the MB4F?

            Thanks, Guido
            Hello!

            I am using the new Glyn Williams model from Mercer and Barker, hence why I am selling my MB4F, which I used before getting the GW mouthpiece.
            Steven Vaughn, D.M.A.
            Professor of Tuba & Euphonium, University of Northern Colorado

            Principal Tuba - Fort Collins Symphony
            Euphonium - Fountain City Brass Band

            Eastman 836 CC Tuba
            Meinl Weston 2182W F Tuba
            Besson 2052 Euphonium

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