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  • Pat
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 399

    Here we go again

    I love my Sterling, but the nostalgia I associate with my college Besson and the unique rich sound keep drawing me back. SO... found a satin finish Besson on Ebay courtesy of Dillon Music and took the plunge once again. Serial number dates the instrument to 1975, the year I started college, so I'm working from the assumption that it was meant for me... that's what I'm telling my sainted wife, anyway.
    Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL
  • John Morgan
    Moderator
    • Apr 2014
    • 1885

    #2
    Congrats on the new horn!! What fun, yes??!! Pictures!! I have a similar wife!!
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
    1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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    • Pat
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 399

      #3
      Horn arrived courtesy of Dillon Music/eBay, just as advertised with no unpleasant surprises or unexpected dents. It's grimy, so I'll take pictures after it's had a good bath this weekend. Couldn't resist playing it. Surprisingly focused, which I didn't expect or recall... it's been a few years since I last played a Besson, so my memory of my "Besson sound" has likely faded with time. I'm looking forward to some side to side comparisons with my Sterling once it's ready for some real playing. Applause to the folks at Dillon for making it play-ready. Valves were oiled (grimy, but oiled), slides were greased and move freely, and spit valve corks are new.
      Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL

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      • Shinn
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 277

        #4
        Congratulations!!! Besson New Standard euphoniums are absolutely wonderful! Focused. Robust. Responsive. Satisfying. Absolutely love these horns!!
        David Shinn
        Peninsula Concert Band
        Yorktown, Virginia



        1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
        1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
        1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
        1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


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        • highpitch
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 1034

          #5
          The New Standard has always been my axe, for over 50 years.

          The old Brits beat brass into just what many composers wanted to hear.

          Tried a LOT of others, but the thing is just that 'sweet spot'.

          I'll give you they are a bit harder to wrangle in every setting, but I'd much rather be the boss of the horn than the opposite...

          Dennis

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          • Pat
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 399

            #6
            I promised pictures: from bath time to reassembly. I must heap more praise on Dillon Music. They replaced the springs, felts and corks. The metal valve guides are a bit noisy, but I don't think I'll swap them out for nylon just yet. Played the horn side by side with my Sterling until my lip gave out. Completely different character. Love them both.

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            Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL

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            • davewerden
              Administrator
              • Nov 2005
              • 11137

              #7
              Ya done good, Pat!
              Dave Werden (ASCAP)
              Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
              Adams Artist (Adams E3)
              Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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              • John Morgan
                Moderator
                • Apr 2014
                • 1885

                #8
                Very nice. Multiple horns is a fun thing, too. I will be playing my B&H Imperial the day after Thanksgiving at an outdoor concert before a Christmas tree lighting and parade. Looking forward to getting it out.
                John Morgan
                The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                Year Round Except Summer:
                Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                Summer Only:
                Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                • RickF
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3871

                  #9
                  What a great looking horn! Congrats!!
                  Rick Floyd
                  Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                  "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                  Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                  El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
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                  • highpitch
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1034

                    #10
                    Bravo, Pat!

                    That is definitely a keeper.

                    I'll keep an eye out for the fourth finger button for you.

                    Dennis

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                    • franz
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 392

                      #11
                      Congratulations on your purchase. I recently bought one myself, but with three compensated valves: robust instruments with a dark, warm and focused sound, typical of the British Bessons of the 60s/70s of the last century. To obviate the annoying noise of the metal guides of the pistons I applied a thin layer of two-component epoxy resin to the sides: a problem easily solved in short time with negligible expense.
                      2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.

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                      • Pat
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 399

                        #12
                        Originally posted by highpitch View Post
                        Bravo, Pat!

                        That is definitely a keeper.

                        I'll keep an eye out for the fourth finger button for you.

                        Dennis
                        Many thanks... it definitely needs that fourth finger button to cap off the look!
                        Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL

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                        • Pat
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 399

                          #13
                          Originally posted by franz View Post
                          Congratulations on your purchase. I recently bought one myself, but with three compensated valves: robust instruments with a dark, warm and focused sound, typical of the British Bessons of the 60s/70s of the last century. To obviate the annoying noise of the metal guides of the pistons I applied a thin layer of two-component epoxy resin to the sides: a problem easily solved in short time with negligible expense.
                          I'd love to hear more details about just how you applied the resin. Toothpick application to the sides of the brass guides? How long to dry? I definitely don't want to epoxy the valves into the horn!! Any specific two-component epoxy resin I should look for?
                          Sterling Virtuoso Euphonium, Denis Wick 4AL

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                          • highpitch
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 1034

                            #14
                            Nylon/Delrin guides are cheap, and an easy DIY.

                            DDG

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                            • franz
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 392

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pat View Post
                              I'd love to hear more details about just how you applied the resin. Toothpick application to the sides of the brass guides? How long to dry? I definitely don't want to epoxy the valves into the horn!! Any specific two-component epoxy resin I should look for?
                              Yes, a toothpick is fine, or a pin. It dries in a couple of hours and you can trim the excess with a thin blade. It is no permanent, it can be removed easily and reapplied just as easily. You have to be careful when inserting the piston, gently, otherwise it can come off. Once in place operation is guaranteed. I have applied it for about three mounts and it still ok.

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                              2007 Besson Prestige 2052, 3D+ K&G mouthpiece; JP373 baritone, 4B modified K&G mouthpiece; Bach 42GO trombone, T4C K&G mouthpiece; 1973 Besson New Standard 3 compensated valves, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece; Wessex French C tuba, 3D+ K&G modified mouthpiece.

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