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  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    FS: Besson 4-Valve Compensating in Satin Silver

    This one has several small dents, but overall it looks very nice. I don't see any geometry problems and the finish is good. It comes with a hard case, although I would not use it for checked baggage. Valves look good. Large shank receiver. Bid starts at $1,249.

    Sold for $2,950 plus $58.94 shipping

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/124970491762

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    Last edited by davewerden; 10-31-2021, 07:18 PM.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
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  • miketeachesclass
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 461

    #2
    Any idea what model that is?

    Originally posted by davewerden View Post
    This one has several small dents, but overall it looks very nice. I don't see any geometry problems and the finish is good. It comes with a hard case, although I would not use it for checked baggage. Valves look good. Large shank receiver. Bid starts at $1,249.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/124970491762

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]8684[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]8685[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]8686[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]8687[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]8688[/ATTACH]
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

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    • Shinn
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2020
      • 277

      #3
      Based on the 671067 serial number and bell stamp, it appears it could be a 1981 Model 767 which is a New Standard (pre-runner to the Sovereign line) though the valve bottoms, caps, and buttons are different than those typically found on a New Standard - actually look more like the Sovereign style. It may be a 1981 Model 966 - here is a related thread…

      http://www.dwerden.com/forum/showthr...y#.YXqKSyT3aEc
      Last edited by Shinn; 10-28-2021, 06:35 AM.
      David Shinn
      Peninsula Concert Band
      Yorktown, Virginia



      1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
      1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
      1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
      1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


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      • MooreTrombone
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2020
        • 5

        #4
        I’m taking a chance on it and bidding. Thanks for the info!

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        • tjjc
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 25

          #5
          Yes, this is a Besson model 767 as Shinn has stated. I own one just like it that I purchased through Duchy Brass a few years ago. It looks very much like a New Standard, but has Sovereign-style valve trim, slightly different bell engraving, and a large shank receiver. Previously I owned a similar lacquered horn that was engraved "Imperial Besson" and also had "767" as a serial number prefix. I would guess that Besson was making sorts of "transitional" horns like these in the late '70s and early '80s as the New Standards and Imperials were being discontinued in favor of the various Sovereign models. My 767s play very well, with the typical Besson intonation issues, and similar to the 11-inch bell 966 Sovereign that I played years ago.

          Hope this helps!

          Tom

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          • Shinn
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2020
            • 277

            #6
            Sold for $2,950 plus $58.94 shipping.
            David Shinn
            Peninsula Concert Band
            Yorktown, Virginia



            1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
            1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
            1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
            1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


            Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/davidshinn....ibextid=LQQJ4d
            Peninsula Concert Band: https://www.peninsulaconcertband.org/

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            • davewerden
              Administrator
              • Nov 2005
              • 11136

              #7
              Originally posted by Shinn View Post
              Sold for $2,950 plus $58.94 shipping.
              Thanks! I updated the original post accordingly. I wonder if MooreTrombone got it...
              Dave Werden (ASCAP)
              Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
              Adams Artist (Adams E3)
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              • MooreTrombone
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2020
                • 5

                #8
                Sadly, I didn’t! I was winning the auction for much of the time but, as a doubler with limited experience playing a bunch of different horns, I started doubting the decision when the bidding war took off last night. I don’t mind investing in a great instrument, but I just have a hard time spending a few thousand dollars when I haven’t played the particular instrument first. The search continues…

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                • davewerden
                  Administrator
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 11136

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MooreTrombone View Post
                  Sadly, I didn’t! I was winning the auction for much of the time but, as a doubler with limited experience playing a bunch of different horns, I started doubting the decision when the bidding war took off last night. I don’t mind investing in a great instrument, but I just have a hard time spending a few thousand dollars when I haven’t played the particular instrument first. The search continues…
                  Hang in there! A bargain may show up, especially if you move quickly on a buy-it-now type offer that seems attractive. But with auctions, one has to be careful to not get overly excited when things ramp up near the end! It's good to have a "top price" established in your head.
                  Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                  Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                  Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                  Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                  YouTube: dwerden
                  Facebook: davewerden
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