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    Griego Brian Bowman Mouthpiece sizes?

    Does anyone have any information on the size of the Griego BB mouthpieces? There doesnít seem to be any specs listed on there website, and Iím very intrigued as to what the sizes are.

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    If they are the same as the older DEG ones, the measurements are on Dave's chart here: Euphonium Mouthpiece Guide (dwerden.com)

    I'm not sure if this has been answered in the forum or not before, but does anyone know why they originally stopped producing these wildly popular mouthpieces?
    Sean

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    I seem to recall that DEG might have gone dormant.... If this were correct, it might explain having passed the BB baton to Griego.... BTW, DEG as well as Griego, seem to be both affiliated to Getzen... Hence the BB series production is still staying well inside the family.

    BTW, I have not tried BB mouthpieces yet.... I am only familiar with SM4U, DC4, and 4AL.... Hence here's my own question: what are the tonal and playing characteristics of BB1?

    Regards, G.
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    Looks like Griego had been making them for DEG and now just sell them themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by guidocorona View Post
    I seem to recall that DEG might have gone dormant.... If this were correct, it might explain having passed the BB baton to Griego.... BTW, DEG as well as Griego, seem to be both affiliated to Getzen... Hence the BB series production is still staying well inside the family.

    BTW, I have not tried BB mouthpieces yet.... I am only familiar with SM4U, DC4, and 4AL.... Hence here's my own question: what are the tonal and playing characteristics of BB1?

    Regards, G.
    I use the BB1, and have tried Kadja and SM4U. The BB1 rim size is about 1.01 inches, similar to a Schilke 51D. The mouthpiece itself has a fair amount of mass, a deep cup and an open backbore. I find that the slightly smaller rim size makes the high range easier for me, and the shape of cup and backbore give me a solid core. The low range has a deep sound and the high range has a singing quality.

    My teacher, Rob Stattel, was a student of Brian Bowman. Rob uses a medium shank BB1 with a Willson 2900 euphonium and like many students before me, I follow my teacher's example.
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    Thank you Dean for characterizing the tonal and playing qualities of BB1.... How would you contrast tonal and playing characteristics of SM4U against your favorite BB1?

    Regards, Guido
    Wessex EP104 Festivo + DC4, SM4U

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    [I use the BB1, and have tried Kadja and SM4U. The BB1 rim size is about 1.01 inches, similar to a Schilke 51D. The mouthpiece itself has a fair amount of mass, a deep cup and an open backbore. I find that the slightly smaller rim size makes the high range easier for me, and the shape of cup and backbore give me a solid core. The low range has a deep sound and the high range has a singing quality.] How would you describe the rim? I'm currently playing on a Schilke 51D and Denis Wick SM5 (Schilke for marching baritone, and Denis Wick for concert euphonium). I like the rim of the Schilke (to me it seems for comfortable), but I like the way I sound on the Wick. My lesson teacher says that I he likes the way I sound on the Wick too, but I'm not a big fan of the rim, to me it seems more "flat".

    In short, I'm looking for a mouthpiece that has the characteristics of the Steven Mead, but with a more comfortable "rounder" rim, which is why I am asking questions about the Brian Bowman.
    Last edited by D.M; 10-08-2021 at 11:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guidocorona View Post
    Thank you Dean for characterizing the tonal and playing qualities of BB1.... How would you contrast tonal and playing characteristics of SM4U against your favorite BB1?

    Regards, Guido
    Guido: For me (and players with less fleshy lips may get a different result), I felt that the BB1 had more volume inside the mouthpiece. My tone had stronger lower harmonics, which made my sound appear bigger. It was as if I changed horns from an American baritone to a British euphonium, if that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.M View Post
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    How would you describe the rim? I'm currently playing on a Schilke 51D and Denis Wick SM5 (Schilke for marching baritone, and Denis Wick for concert euphonium). I like the rim of the Schilke (to me it seems for comfortable), but I like the way I sound on the Wick. My lesson teacher says that I he likes the way I sound on the Wick too, but I'm not a big fan of the rim, to me it seems more "flat".

    In short, I'm looking for a mouthpiece that has the characteristics of the Steven Mead, but with a more comfortable "rounder" rim, which is why I am asking questions about the Brian Bowman.
    I find the BB1 rim to be quite comfortable, and (for me, at least) when compared to the SM, I have a more secure high range and my compensating range is no longer tending sharp.
    Dean L. Surkin
    Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1, Kadja, and DE 101XTG9 mouthpieces
    Bach 36B trombone; pBone; Vincent Bach (from 1971) 6.5AL mouthpiece
    Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
    See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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    Thank you Dean for all the excellent information... Most enlightening!

    Regards, Guido
    Wessex EP104 Festivo + DC4, SM4U

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