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Thread: Inquiry: Stauffer Fifth Valve for Yamaha 321

  1. Inquiry: Stauffer Fifth Valve for Yamaha 321

    I'm sure many of you guys remember these. They always seemed to have been available only intermittently and now not at all, evidently.

    https://www.hornguys.com/products/st...-321-euphonium

    Anyway, if anyone has or knows of one and might be willing to part with it, I have a student who may be interested. Thank you.

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    I was just telling a student about these. I'm sorry to hear they are no longer being made. Perhaps one could be manufactured by a skilled repair tech?

    Robert Pendergast, DM

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    Is this a patent concern? If so it would seem that the holder of the patent could sell enough of these to make it worth h/h while.

    if not a patent issue, why isnít somebody making them?

    Edited to add- If someone is selling an old 321 with a fifth valve, please pm me.
    Last edited by ann reid; 09-14-2021 at 05:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ann reid View Post
    Is this a patent concern? If so it would seem that the holder of the patent could sell enough of these to make it worth h/h while.

    if not a patent issue, why isnít somebody making them?
    I doubt it's patentable as removable valves have been made for brass instruments since the 19th century. Nevertheless, the Stauffer/Hornguys valve is just a copy of what yamaha used to make. I suspect Hornguys had them made at Kanstul which is now gone, which is why it's no longer available. I think it probably does not sell well enough to make it worth their while to find another manufacturing partner.
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    Barry

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    Don't know about patent. But as I recall the HornGuys sold their for around $750. Given the limited market, I'm not sure you could sell them at that price and make a profit.
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