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  • mbrooke
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 401

    Recommendations for face masks.

    Any recommendation for face masks? Our conductor bought masks, but while they might work for trumpet etc., they don't work well for euphonium. The hole is too small and the mask keeps getting under the mouthpiece.

    Thanks,

    Mike
  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    #2
    I have had no luck with the masks that have a hole and a flap or the one that has a zipper. But I have a large head (and nose) so that can stretch a mask a bit.

    I have not yet tried one that I see some of my low brass friends use but I want to. It has an overlapped flap, rather like men's briefs.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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    • dsurkin
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 526

      #3
      Originally posted by davewerden View Post
      [snip]I have not yet tried one that I see some of my low brass friends use but I want to. It has an overlapped flap, rather like men's briefs.
      Dave, can you point me to that brand? I've got to get a mask for upcoming orchestra season (something that'll be comfortable to wear while the trombone section has an 85 bar rest until it gets to play another half note).
      Dean L. Surkin
      Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
      Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
      Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
      See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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      • davewerden
        Administrator
        • Nov 2005
        • 11136

        #4
        It's been hard for me to track one down, so I don't have one yet. There is a good chat about it on a trombone forum here:

        https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?t=18826

        It includes a link to the Selmer-Conn mask, which seems to be the right idea.
        Dave Werden (ASCAP)
        Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
        Adams Artist (Adams E3)
        Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
        YouTube: dwerden
        Facebook: davewerden
        Twitter: davewerden
        Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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        • davewerden
          Administrator
          • Nov 2005
          • 11136

          #5
          Here is my Tuba player friend plays

          https://www.grothmusic.com/p-80226.a...UaAqjbEALw_wcB
          Dave Werden (ASCAP)
          Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
          Adams Artist (Adams E3)
          Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
          YouTube: dwerden
          Facebook: davewerden
          Twitter: davewerden
          Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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          • mbrooke
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 401

            #6
            Originally posted by davewerden View Post
            I have had no luck with the masks that have a hole and a flap or the one that has a zipper. But I have a large head (and nose) so that can stretch a mask a bit.

            I have not yet tried one that I see some of my low brass friends use but I want to. It has an overlapped flap, rather like men's briefs.
            This is the type that out conductor purchased. Found it hard to use. It's difficult to get the mouthpiece throughout the flap and the flap has a tendency to get between the mouthpiece and lip when you pull the mouthpiece away. I always play with the mouthpiece offset from center, so I am constantly pulling the mask off. Some this could be fit issues, as the mask seem quite small.

            Mike

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            • RickF
              Moderator
              • Jan 2006
              • 3869

              #7
              Our band is requiring us to mask up when we’re not playing rather than use a mask with an opening. Besides getting the mpc in the opening it would be difficult to catch a breath when playing I fear.
              Rick Floyd
              Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

              "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
              Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

              El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
              The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
              Festive Overture(Dmitri Shostakovich)

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              • John Morgan
                Moderator
                • Apr 2014
                • 1884

                #8
                Originally posted by RickF View Post
                Our band is requiring us to mask up when we’re not playing rather than use a mask with an opening. Besides getting the mpc in the opening it would be difficult to catch a breath when playing I fear.
                Now how does that work exactly? Wear a mask if you have no part (tacet) for a particular piece? Wear a mask during extended rests in a piece? Wear your mask in between pieces?
                John Morgan
                The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                Year Round Except Summer:
                Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                Summer Only:
                Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                • RickF
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3869

                  #9
                  Well, we're supposed to pull it down to play and pull it back up when we have extended rests. We just had our first rehearsal last Monday night. Evidently all of us weren't doing a great job because our band president sent out an email reminding us how we should do it.
                  Rick Floyd
                  Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                  "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                  Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                  El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
                  The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
                  Festive Overture(Dmitri Shostakovich)

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                  • John Morgan
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1884

                    #10
                    Well, I am from South Dakota, and I know you all have heard about South Dakota's approach to COVID, masks, etc. Linda and I are vaccinated, and we don't plan to play, then pull our masks back up on our face and then move them down and then move them up and then move them down, etc. Which would require me to park my horn in the stand every time I quit playing for a while, then move the mask up, count rests, then move the mask down, then pick up my horn, then play, then put down my horn in the stand, then pull up my mask, etc. And I suppose you have to hold your breath while you are in between any of these maneuvers. I would not attend band if we were required to go through that drill. Certainly no disrespect intended for any who are doing the procedure above (that may be your only recourse), but it is just entirely not for me, or Linda, or 95% of the people in the bands we play in. We either play somewhat normally, or we don't play at all.

                    Our New Horizons Band and Rapid City Municipal Band played all summer in normal rehearsal mode (inside in a band room or a small gym) and concert mode, and there were no problems that I am aware of.
                    John Morgan
                    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                    1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                    Year Round Except Summer:
                    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                    Summer Only:
                    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                    • mbrooke
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 401

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RickF View Post
                      Our band is requiring us to mask up when we’re not playing rather than use a mask with an opening. Besides getting the mpc in the opening it would be difficult to catch a breath when playing I fear.
                      I think even that would be better than dealing with a musicians mask. Getting the mouthpiece in the opening takes some fiddling around. So you need to leave the mouthpiece in the mask unless you have enough rest time. My community band is part of Northern VA Community College, so masks are mandated at all times indoors. The only positive thing is that the band has shrunk from 85 players pre-covid to about 55 now. Although somehow we still have 5 euphs and 6 tubas!

                      Mike

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                      • RickF
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 3869

                        #12
                        We had band rehearsal again last night. It’s not that hard to pull down my mask to play - pull it up again when resting. If I need two hands to pull it up just laying the horn on my lap works fine for that. Since we rehearse in a Palm Beach County school district band room, we have to follow the rules which is all on campus need to wear masks inside buildings... vaccinated or not. All in our band are required to be vaccinated.
                        Rick Floyd
                        Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                        "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                        Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                        El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
                        The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
                        Festive Overture(Dmitri Shostakovich)

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