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Thread: New Besson Euphonium

  1. New Besson Euphonium

    Hello everyone,

    On Tuesday 13th July 2021, 4BarsRest released an interview with David Childs where he mentioned that he was working with Besson on a new Euphonium which was going to be designed for the market in America and I was wondering if anyone had any more information on this exciting development?

    Here is a link to the interview - https://soundcloud.com/4barsrest/4br...h-david-childs.

    Best Wishes,

    Micah Dominic Parsons

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    Interesting. I haven't heard any rumors about that. Given Besson's existing popularity in the USA, I would venture a guess that "for the market in America" means something that plays more like a Willson.
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    I'd been wondering if the UNT euphonium factory would be switching to Bessons over the coming years, and perhaps this is the answer.
    Sean

  4. “Looking into our history” I wonder how far back they want to take inspiration from, Globe sovereigns? imperials? Solbron?

    Could this be a move away from pro/amateur marketing and towards a flavour of sound preferred by such and such an artist… they have accumulated a lot of euphonium artists in recent years…

    Or just a cheap R n D project by reusing old designs and parts…

    More choice means a less homogeneous euphonium sound pallet, so still exciting.

  5. The medium shank Willson 2900 took it's inspiration from the New Standard/Imperial of the 1960's. Dr. Brian Bowman was a student at Univ. of Michigan at the time and played that instrument under William D. Revelli in the symphonic band. As a member of US Military bands, he initially played the medium shank Besson as did virtually all others (Phil Franke of the USMC Band was the final hold out). I am not sure when Dr. Bowman switched to the Willson, though I think it had to be in the late 1970's or early 1980s. By that time, Besson had switched to the Sovereign as had the top British brass artists and they no longer offering a horn that played like the classic Imperial (966's, 968's and 2051's do not count).

    So, now that David has been teaching at UNT for a couple of years and has students preparing for the various military bands, I would surmise that a horn with the "Willson 2900" sound, that would blend with those that came before would result in a fair amount of new business. No doubt, Shires is trying do exactly that and has made some inroads into the USAF band.

    My 2 cents...

    Doug
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    Doug, Brian switched to the 2900 in the late 1970’s, possibly 77-78. I was in college with his student Roger Behrend who raved about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spkissane View Post
    I'd been wondering if the UNT euphonium factory would be switching to Bessons over the coming years, and perhaps this is the answer.
    Absolutely - I assume this will cater to the American wind band sound concept, although with David's brass band playing, I wonder whether he himself would change, or if this is essentially a development for besson/buffet to further penetrate the american market.

    Given the number of service band players now playing Shires, This horn better be price competitive.
    Mike Taylor

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    Fox Valley Brass Band

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    "a little more compact" "takes a look back at our past, rather than going too much bigger"

    The only part of the American wind band market and wind band sound concept which has been standardized in any way is the service band market. And from the hints that he drops it sure seems that market is what Besson is aiming to capture. That might be a good thing, to me anyway, if Besson can open up the euphonium sound in those bands, while keeping the military band people from feeling they have strayed too far from the tight, closed Willson sound.

    Another effect of Childs' UNT gig is that he's doing undercover work for Besson.

  9. Hello everyone,

    I am rather curious to see what this new development will look like and how it will compare to The Besson Sovereign 967T Euphonium and Besson Prestige 2052-2 Euphonium.

    Best Wishes,

    Micah Dominic Parsons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micah.Dominic.Parsons View Post
    Hello everyone,

    I am rather curious to see what this new development will look like and how it will compare to The Besson Sovereign 967T Euphonium and Besson Prestige 2052-2 Euphonium.

    Best Wishes,

    Micah Dominic Parsons
    About 10 years ago I played a German 967 in a very fine wind ensemble. The director, a guy with a doctorate from Eastman School of music, loved the sound of the 967 and thought it was the perfect euphonium sound. I ultimately sold it for ergonomic reasons and because of the classic Besson sharpness on the 6th partial. So, a tweaked 967 T might be a possibility.

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