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Thread: Comparing 2 Alliance Mouthpieces: DC3 and DC4

  1. It's great to hear you play these side by side. I've typically been a fan of some of the larger sizes simply because of how they feel to play, really without regard for how they sound. I tend to think I can make it sound the way I want, but I can't change the feel. But I'm probably wrong about that. I started playing big 1 1/4g mouthpieces on euph, but I realized after a while that didn't really work. Then I tried 1 1/2 size, and it was better, but still not right. My trombone mouthpieces didn't really work either. Recently I've been playing SM3U and then SM3. As I gradually get smaller, the horns starts sounding better and better.

    Your recordings show the sound difference in clarity and brilliance with the smaller mouthpiece. It's not something I'd probably pick up on without hearing the two pieces side by side like that. I will look for smaller yet mouthpieces to get the mud out of my sound. Thanks so much!
    Last edited by hyperbolica; 09-07-2021 at 10:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperbolica View Post
    It's great to hear you play these side by side. I've typically been a fan of some of the larger sizes simply because of how they feel to play, really without regard for how they sound. I tend to think I can make it sound the way I want, but I can't change the feel. But I'm probably wrong about that. I started playing big 1 1/4g mouthpieces on euph, but I realized after a while that didn't really work. Then I tried 1 1/2 size, and it was better, but still not right. My trombone mouthpieces didn't really work either. Recently I've been playing SM3U and then SM3. As I gradually get smaller, the horns starts sounding better and better.

    Your recordings show the sound difference in clarity and brilliance with the smaller mouthpiece. It's not something I'd probably pick up on without hearing the two pieces side by side like that. I will look for smaller yet mouthpieces to get the mud out of my sound. Thanks so much!
    That is something I've been struggling with for years. Obviously we want a large, dark (at least to some extent) sound for a euphonium. If we go too far in that direction we lose the singing quality of the euphonium and start to sound more like a tuba (Note: I'm not saying tubas can't be made to "sing" in the hands of a good player!). I'll restate that if my primary job was playing the Holst 2nd Suite, my 4AL did all I could ask. And frankly it was a fine all-around mouthpiece. But we play many styles of music, including some that are well-packed with fast notes, and a smaller mouthpiece with better focus will help those notes be more audible. That helps the lines be more apparent, which brings out the music to the audience.

    In the middle of that last sentence I realized I could type words all day and not "decide" this issue. Recordings help us decide, and also feeling the mouthpiece on our chops as we blow air and play through different ranges. So I'll just say that for ME the DC4 was better OVERALL than the DC3 or 4AL.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC4)
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    Hello Dave, after listening to your comparisons of 4AL vs DC3 and DC4, I received a wonderful birthday gift in the form of a brand spanking new DC4 in silver plate livery... That was about a month ago, and am still happily suffering from acute Honey-moon syndrome.

    While my technical skills are still substandard, I found DC4 to produce a silky shimmering tone on my Wessex Festivo, which makes me fall in love with euphonium even more deeply than before.

    Amongst other things, it seems that DC4 makes me a little more precise and snappier in transitions between notes than with SM4U and 4AL..... And while I occasionally miss the slightly darker and perhaps bolder tone of SM4U, there is just something magic with DC4 that I have not experienced with the other two mouthpieces... And yes, I am practicing more

    Regards, Guido
    Last edited by guidocorona; 09-07-2021 at 04:38 PM.
    Wessex EP104 Festivo + DC4, SM4U

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