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Thread: Looking for smaller, lighter, brighter instrument

  1. Looking for smaller, lighter, brighter instrument

    I'm a trombone player with some shoulder problems, so I 'm learning valve instruments. I've already got one of the Wessex Festivos, with 4v on the front. Great for ergonomic purposes, and good sound. I used to own an Olds 3v marching trombone, which had a great sound, but I can't go there ergonomically any more with my arms out front, I need an instrument that is more like the Festivo.

    I'm looking for a smaller euph with a brighter sound and maybe only 3 valves, uncompensated, bell front probably. Maybe like a King 265 (guessing from what I see visually on eBay). I don't have a great deal of experience with the older valved instruments, although I know tbones well enough. I'm mainly familiar with the 2280, which is cool, but it's a little overkill for what I want to do with this instrument. Something in the King, Conn, Olds, Bach range. Any suggestions?

  2. #2
    Yamaha makes a bell front YEP-211, which would definitely play brighter than the Festivo. Inexpensive used ones are sometimes on Ebay.

    https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musi...211/index.html

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    There are often used American 3-valve euphoniums ("baritone horns") on eBay. A Conn or King are my favorites, but Holton, Reynolds and Olds are good too. Here is one such:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bra...C/324497958000
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece (DC4)
    YouTube: dwerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    Twitter: davewerden
    Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

  4. Ok, thanks! So I'm looking at King 625 Conn 20i, Olds Ambassador, Holton 185, Reynolds Contempora/Emporer Thanks

  5. #5
    There are a few of these "tromboniums" on eBay that might fit the bill. They're definitely lighter and brighter than your average baritone or euphonium.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/King-Trombo...QAAOSw6Olfj0yx

    Robert Pendergast, DM

  6. Not sure if you're interested, but there's this Conn double bell on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Conn-Double...%7C2500%7C1500

  7. Quote Originally Posted by 1Cor13:4 View Post
    Not sure if you're interested, but there's this Conn double bell on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Conn-Double...%7C2500%7C1500
    The tromboniums are cool, but maybe too small. One of those 90i full-bore tromboniums, but they're pretty rare. Actually I'd like a bass trombonium, but I think that would have to be custom made.


    That double bell is cool. Best of both worlds. Maybe a little bit heavy though. Not too bad condition.

    What do you all think of this:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/33225422079...L:COSI:US:1123

  8. Quote Originally Posted by hyperbolica View Post
    It looks like the listing ended/sold already, but that's a pretty high price IMO for a horn that apparently will need some degree of work/restoration according to the listing.

    Usually on places like Ebay and Reverb you can find a used 3 valve bell front in decent playable condition for around $600 depending on cosmetic condition. 4 valve ones tend to go for a bit more.
    Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Schilke 51D-E
    Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Hammond 12ML
    F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941)
    VMI 3301S BBb Tuba

    Past:
    York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
    Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
    Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Fujiifilm View Post
    It looks like the listing ended/sold already, but that's a pretty high price IMO for a horn that apparently will need some degree of work/restoration according to the listing.

    Usually on places like Ebay and Reverb you can find a used 3 valve bell front in decent playable condition for around $600 depending on cosmetic condition. 4 valve ones tend to go for a bit more.
    Yeah, the price is high, but that's negotiable. I was wondering about the horn itself. It looks to be in decent physical condition, aside from the valves. I might have offered $250 based on what I can see if that or something like it were still available. I hate to insult people with lowball prices, but it might take some work to get the valves going, and who knows about the slides.

    That's about the size I was interested in - a little bigger than the trombonium, but not much.

  10. This probably isn't what you're looking for, but Wessex does have a double bell also if you want that versatility. It's front valves are ergonomic.

    https://wessex-tubas.com/collections...uphonium-ep105

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