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Thread: Contrasting Shires Q40 vs Q41

  1. #51
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    You are right Steve, a modular receiver design which can accept both large and medium MP shanks has likely broader applicability than an Adjustable Gap Receiver that accepts only large shanks.

    Regards, Guido
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    I thought about this for Adams. Making a custom receiver for medium shank is no problem - it would just need a different barrel on the AGR, BUT...I think that would be less than perfect.

    FOR EXAMPLE:
    I assume on a horn like a Willson 2900, the end of the leadpipe is made to match the diameter of a medium-shank mouthpiece (which of course is smaller in diameter than a large-shank mouthpiece. Retro-fitting a large receiver would allow it to use a bass trombone shank, but wouldn't there still be a mis-match between the ending diameter of the mouthpiece and the diameter of the beginning of the leadpipe?

    SOOOOOO, in the Shires example, wouldn't the modular receiver have the same mis-match?

    It would be a minor thing, and is probably better than an adaptor, but it seems to me that if a horn's leadpipe is designed for one size of shank, the only perfect match would from the comparable-sized mouthpiece. Am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    [snip] it seems to me that if a horn's leadpipe is designed for one size of shank, the only perfect match would from the comparable-sized mouthpiece. Am I missing something?
    It makes sense to me that the taper from shank all the way to the valve set should be optimized for a particular shank. I suspect this is part of the thinking behind the Monette trumpet models that use an integrated (i.e., non-removable cup and shank with screw-on rim) mouthpiece.
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  4. #54
    I gave Mike Colburn a set of Shires euphoniums for him and his students to demo, and here are his thoughts, shared with permission:

    I have had a few chances to play the Shires euphs, and find them to be very fine instruments! I founnd myself a bit more comfortable on the Q40, probably because it seems to more closely resembles my Willson 2900. I thought both horns performed at their best with the provided Shires mouthpiece, which I would recommend using, at least initially. I found both horns to be super responsive, and thought they had a warm and consistent tone quality through the basic range of the instrument. Intonation was very consistent, and the notes centered very easily. I wasn’t able to achieve the same level of comfort in the extreme registers (above high B-flat and in the pedal register), but that would probably come in time. The finish and construction appear to be top notch, and both horns feel sturdy and solid. In closing, I think these are horns that are very competitive with other professional models euphoniums I’ve tried, and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them to a student looking for a top quality professional level instrument at a price point well below some of the more expensive models on the market.
    Sean

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    Thank you Sean for posting Col. Colburn's excellent report... Valuable findings from a professional with impecable credentials!

    For context, here is an in depth interview with Michael Colburn:
    The Michael Colburn Interview - YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JOQ9OfPdsA

    Are you expecting further Q Series reports from college profs or other euphonium professionals?

    Regards, Guido
    Last edited by guidocorona; 10-24-2021 at 10:53 AM.
    Wessex EP104 Festivo + DC4, SM4U

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    Quote Originally Posted by guidocorona View Post
    Thank you Sean for posting Col. Colburn's excellent report... Valuable findings from a professional with impecable credentials!

    For context, here is an in depth interview with Michael Colburn:
    The Michael Colburn Interview - YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JOQ9OfPdsA

    Are you expecting further Q Series reports from college profs or other euphonium professionals?

    Regards, Guido
    I'm sending the set of horns to the Ball State tuba/euph studio next. Matt Lyon is primarily a tuba player, but he's definitely a fantastic one. I'm also going to be hosting an Eastman/Shires tuba-euphonium day in March at my shop with a couple special guest performing artists - will hopefully be able to live-stream it!
    Sean

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    Thank you Sean.... That's fabulous!

    Please keep us posted.

    G.
    Wessex EP104 Festivo + DC4, SM4U

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