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  1. Geneva Baritone

    Looks like Geneva recently released a baritone horn for their Oldroyd Cardinal range:

    https://genevainstruments.com/oldroy...b-euphonium-2/

    Interesting design, non-compensating 3 valve, with a unique main tuning slide trigger activated by a piston where a 4th valve would be located on a normal 3+1 setup.

    I'd be keen to hear how it plays!
    Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AM
    Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Bach 5G
    F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941) - Faxx 7C

    Past:
    York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
    Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
    Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS

  2. #2
    It's been out almost a year, the only player I know of using one is Steve Ridler in the Fairey Band. Given the unusual design it might be difficult to find converts. Almost all of Black Dyke is playing Geneva instruments now but notably the baritone section there appears to still be on Besson.
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    Barry

  3. I noticed that too about Black Dyke when they shifted sponsorships to Geneva, though at the time I figured it was just because Geneva hadn't developed a baritone yet. I don't remember seeing any announcements for it, but given the whirlwind of events from the past year I could have just missed hearing about it!
    Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AM
    Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Bach 5G
    F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941) - Faxx 7C

    Past:
    York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
    Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
    Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS

  4. #4
    Here's a video about the prototype from March 2019

    https://www.facebook.com/GenevaInstr...30449787009934

    And a review from Aug. 2019

    https://www.4barsrest.com/reviews/products/inst066.asp
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    Barry

  5. #5
    tuning trigger seems to use something like a bicycle cable for the linkage which is a nice solution I wish more brass instrument makers would look at.
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    Barry

  6. Thank you for the links Barry! Much appreciated and nice to see more about the horn.

    I agree about the trigger design. Seems much more lightweight compared to the usual paddle and ball-joint linkage that's typically seen.
    Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AM
    Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Bach 5G
    F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941) - Faxx 7C

    Past:
    York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
    Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
    Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS

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    I guess one of the advantages of having a trigger as standard compared to a compensating system is that you take away any additional resistance created by the compensating system, along with some notes being on the flat side because of some compensating loops being slightly too long (in the 2nd valve especially), thus making response more even?
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    Mouthpiece: Denis Wick 5AL
    1979 Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign (Globe Stamp)
    Mouthpiece: Denis Wick SM4
    Baritone
    1975 Besson New Standard
    Mouthpiece: Denis Wick 6BS

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