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  1. Unusual Conn Euphonium Design

    Found this on Reverb today, I've never seen an old front action euph with this specific design before. It kind of looks similar to a 4v double bell, but with a 4th valve loop where the 2nd bell would go? According to the description it dates from the 1890s.

    (To clarify, this is not my euph for sale nor am I affiliated with the seller.)

    Link to the listing with more photos: https://reverb.com/item/38149470-c-g...orn-circa-1892

    Here are a few images borrowed from the listing:

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    Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AM
    Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Bach 5G
    F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941) - Faxx 7C

    Past:
    York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
    Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
    Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS

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    That is one bizarro horn for sure. The upper bow appears soldered to the bell, how strange is that!? This horn conjures up thoughts of Dr. Frankenstein and the mutant euphonium/baritone!!! There seems to be too much plumbing for a 4 valve, non-compensating horn. Would be interesting to see the original horn, if this is not it. Seems this horn may have been modified.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, Wessex EP-100 Dolce Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Wessex TE-360 Bombino Eb Tuba
    Rapid City New Horizons & Municipal Bands (Euphonium)
    Black Hills Symphony Orchestra (Bass Trombone), Powder River Symphony, Gillette, WY (Tenor Trombone)
    Black Hills Brass Quintet (Tuba)

  3. Conn Loyalist shows this "American Model" 4 valve Double Bell ca. 1890 that has a very similar wrap: https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn...1890image.html

    Perhaps this is an "American Model" 4 valve (non-double bell) or a home brew conversion of the DB into a normal 4 valve.

    Doug
    Sterling Virtuoso 1065HGS & Adams E3 Prototype 0.70 Top Sprung valves
    Sterling Virtuoso 1050HGS baritone
    New England Brass Band
    Winchendon Winds/Townsend Military Band

  4. Did some digging on Horn-u-copia, and it looks that is the original design, based on catalog illustrations. It's listed as dating from 1890s and was called the "American" model ("New American" for the 3v version).

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    Last edited by Fujiifilm; 01-11-2021 at 03:49 PM. Reason: removed the conn loyalist info since Doug already posted it above.
    Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AM
    Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Bach 5G
    F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941) - Faxx 7C

    Past:
    York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
    Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
    Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS

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    Interesting, unique find.

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