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    Valve oil

    I have been using Blue Juice, but I am almost out, so it is time to buy a new bottle of valve oil. What valve oil do you guys like best?

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    I’m still using Blue Juice and will stick with it. No complaints and it helps keep my valves cleaner.
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  3. I use Blue juice most of the time. Sometimes when I have washed the valves and casings, I start with one coat of either Wick or Hetman #1. They "stick" to the surface and last better than Blue Juice, but are not as smooth once things get all settled. I can go weeks using just Blue Juice. I will say that if plaque (calcium?) build up has started after a long time, or valves have dried out completely and started sticking to the casing, I will go back to the Hetman or Wick to get the valves back in shape.
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    I have tried everything out there 38 times or more. I am currently in the "Monster Oil" phase of my life, have been for maybe a year now, and I like it pretty good. I get the Doc's Juice version, which is a buck more, so it must be better, right? Made/sold by some current, I believe, trumpet players from the U. S. Coast Guard Band, Dave's old stomping grounds.
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    I always come back to Blue Juice. It doesn't last as long as some, but I definitely see less gunk in the horn and valve oil is cheap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by massmanute View Post
    I have been using Blue Juice, but I am almost out, so it is time to buy a new bottle of valve oil. What valve oil do you guys like best?
    I've used Blue Juice, Hetman, and Yamaha. Now I'm using Resilience and I'm very pleased with it - very little gunk buildup and very long lasting. The drawback: not widely available and a little more expensive than some.
    https://www.resilienceoils.com/
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    At one time, I was a little concerned over possible ill effects of Blue Juice on one's health, so I asked Demondrae Thurman in a masterclass if he thought the stuff could give you cancer. He laughed and said no, so I'm still using it. Nothing else I've ever tried has worked as well.

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    Here's another vote for sticking with Blue Juice. I haven't experimented too much with other oils, but a few years ago I tried out Hetman for a while and I experienced more gunky buildup in my horn than I was happy with. I switched back to Blue Juice after that and haven't looked back. In fact two new bottles arrived at my doorstep just this week.

    I will say that I started using Hetman tuning slide grease a couple years ago and for me that stuff is great. After cleaning my slides and putting Hetman slide grease on them they worked better than they ever have. I haven't experienced any gunk issues with using Blue Juice and Hetman slide grease.

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    I haven't experienced any gunk issues with using Blue Juice and Hetman slide grease.

    Me neither! I’ve been using those two together for about 3 years with no issues.
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    Blue Juice. It's reliable, consistent, and keeps the valves and casings clean.
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