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  • massmanute
    Member
    • Nov 2019
    • 141

    Valve oil

    I have been using Blue Juice, but I am almost out, so it is time to buy a new bottle of valve oil. What valve oil do you guys like best?
  • RickF
    Moderator
    • Jan 2006
    • 3871

    #2
    I’m still using Blue Juice and will stick with it. No complaints and it helps keep my valves cleaner.
    Rick Floyd
    Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

    "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
    Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

    El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
    The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
    Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)

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    • daruby
      Moderator
      • Apr 2006
      • 2217

      #3
      I use Blue juice most of the time. Sometimes when I have washed the valves and casings, I start with one coat of either Wick or Hetman #1. They "stick" to the surface and last better than Blue Juice, but are not as smooth once things get all settled. I can go weeks using just Blue Juice. I will say that if plaque (calcium?) build up has started after a long time, or valves have dried out completely and started sticking to the casing, I will go back to the Hetman or Wick to get the valves back in shape.
      Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
      Concord Band
      Winchendon Winds
      Townsend Military Band

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      • John Morgan
        Moderator
        • Apr 2014
        • 1884

        #4
        I have tried everything out there 38 times or more. I am currently in the "Monster Oil" phase of my life, have been for maybe a year now, and I like it pretty good. I get the Doc's Juice version, which is a buck more, so it must be better, right? Made/sold by some current, I believe, trumpet players from the U. S. Coast Guard Band, Dave's old stomping grounds.
        John Morgan
        The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
        Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
        1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
        Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
        Year Round Except Summer:
        Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
        KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
        Summer Only:
        Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
        Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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        • carbogast
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 531

          #5
          I always come back to Blue Juice. It doesn't last as long as some, but I definitely see less gunk in the horn and valve oil is cheap!
          Carroll Arbogast
          Piano Technician
          CMA Piano Care

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          • dsurkin
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 526

            #6
            Originally posted by massmanute View Post
            I have been using Blue Juice, but I am almost out, so it is time to buy a new bottle of valve oil. What valve oil do you guys like best?
            I've used Blue Juice, Hetman, and Yamaha. Now I'm using Resilience and I'm very pleased with it - very little gunk buildup and very long lasting. The drawback: not widely available and a little more expensive than some.
            https://www.resilienceoils.com/
            Dean L. Surkin
            Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
            Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
            Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
            See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing

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            • uieuph
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 178

              #7
              At one time, I was a little concerned over possible ill effects of Blue Juice on one's health, so I asked Demondrae Thurman in a masterclass if he thought the stuff could give you cancer. He laughed and said no, so I'm still using it. Nothing else I've ever tried has worked as well.

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              • aroberts781
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 288

                #8
                Here's another vote for sticking with Blue Juice. I haven't experimented too much with other oils, but a few years ago I tried out Hetman for a while and I experienced more gunky buildup in my horn than I was happy with. I switched back to Blue Juice after that and haven't looked back. In fact two new bottles arrived at my doorstep just this week.

                I will say that I started using Hetman tuning slide grease a couple years ago and for me that stuff is great. After cleaning my slides and putting Hetman slide grease on them they worked better than they ever have. I haven't experienced any gunk issues with using Blue Juice and Hetman slide grease.
                1976 Besson 3-valve New Standard, DE102/I/I8
                1969 Conn 88H, Schilke 51

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                • RickF
                  Moderator
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3871

                  #9
                  I haven't experienced any gunk issues with using Blue Juice and Hetman slide grease.

                  Me neither! I’ve been using those two together for about 3 years with no issues.
                  Rick Floyd
                  Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                  "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                  Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                  El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
                  The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
                  Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)

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                  • tonewheeler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 460

                    #10
                    Blue Juice. It's reliable, consistent, and keeps the valves and casings clean.
                    Euphs:
                    Miraphone 5050 Ambassador
                    Wessex Travel (Tornister) Euphonium 'Maly' ER154
                    Yamaha 201 Baritone
                    Mp: Wick SM4 Ultra X
                    Groups:
                    The San Diego Concert Band

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                    • Magikarp
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 247

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tonewheeler View Post
                      Blue Juice. It's reliable, consistent, and keeps the valves and casings clean.
                      There’s a lot of love for the blue poison here. I still maintain it’s oil for people who don’t like cleaning their instruments. (I used to do a great deal of instrument cleaning and servicing, and the amount of residue left behind by habitual Blue Juice use was quite remarkable. In general they were instruments owned by bands and not an individual, so that may account for the for it). Even on my old hooters I found it too thick, and ended up with Al Cass. I’m currently using Yamaha synthetic which is great. I don’t get build up as the euph is washed internally every month.

                      I really liked Besson’s proprietary oil but that’s long since vanished, and as for Webster’s Ego lube, what an appalling product.
                      Nowt

                      Retired

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                      • RickF
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 3871

                        #12
                        I remember reading (on another network) where Matt at Dillon Music said, “Use Blue Juice, you’ll thank me later”. When I take my horn in for its yearly service my tech always says that it’s pretty clean. I do clean out my horn every few months between yearly service.
                        Rick Floyd
                        Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ / RF mpc

                        "Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
                        Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches

                        El Cumbanchero (Raphael Hernandez, arr. Naohiro Iwai)
                        The Cowboys (John Williams, arr. James Curnow)
                        Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich)

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                        • tbonesullivan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2019
                          • 155

                          #13
                          I need to pick some up next time I am down there, or maybe I'll just order some.
                          Sterling / Perantucci 1065HGS Euphonium, 1952 B&H Imperial Eb Tuba, and a bunch of trombones.

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                          • BrandonJones
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 316

                            #14
                            Five Starr. You're welcome.
                            Brandon Jones
                            Principal Euphonium - The United States Air Force Band, Washington, D.C.
                            bmjones82@gmail.com

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                            • MarChant
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 191

                              #15
                              I always use La Tromba T1. Maybe not the cheapest, but the bottles last for a very long time.
                              Martin Monné

                              My collection of Brass Instruments

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