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Both my original HBC and the inset piece arrived in very good time.
Faster, in fact, than I had expected!Jim Williams N9EJR (love 10 meter CW)
Formerly Principal Euphonium in a whole
bunch of groups, now just a schlub.
Shires Q41, Yamaha 321, 621 Baritone
Wick 4AL, Wessex 4Y, or whatever I grab.
Conn 50H trombone, Blue P-bone
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Following on to my own question, I received an e-mail from Chris this morning with tracking number, along with a good-natured reminder that the cap is on approval for a month..
I placed the order Friday the 4th and it was posted Thursday the 10th. It left the UK on Saturday the 12th, not wanting to wait around and watch the rest of the league butcher my Baggies.
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Originally posted by Chris Waters View PostThank you; we do try our best! Hope your HBC is performing well. All the best, Chris
JohnJohn Morgan
The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 BaritoneAdams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
Year Round Except Summer:Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)Summer Only:
KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)
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I’ve taken the HBC off my round stamp and it transformed the playing characteristics back to what I loved about it. The higher register isn’t quite as easy, but the sound has reverted to a fuller one. The intonation isn’t quite as good up high, but in the middle lower register (middle F to pedal Bb) has returned to its former warmth.
A better sound in the register I spend most of the time is preferable to easier high Eb.
Octave slurs are easier without the cap, and middle - lower register notes are easy to produce.
A worthwhile experiment but not one I have benefitted from.Nowt
Retired
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Originally posted by Magikarp View PostI’ve taken the HBC off my round stamp and it transformed the playing characteristics back to what I loved about it. The higher register isn’t quite as easy, but the sound has reverted to a fuller one. The intonation isn’t quite as good up high, but in the middle lower register (middle F to pedal Bb) has returned to its former warmth.
A better sound in the register I spend most of the time is preferable to easier high Eb.
Octave slurs are easier without the cap, and middle - lower register notes are easy to produce.
A worthwhile experiment but not one I have benefitted from.
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Hi Chris, I will be keeping hold of the HBC because I’d assume that playing at full force in a band might yield different results to more diffident tooting at home. The service from your company has been exceptional , and the quality of the product similarly excellent.
I’ll pass it on to a friend who also has a round stamp to see what he thinks. He’s a much more accomplished player than I am so it might suit him.Nowt
Retired
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My HBC arrived yesterday. Instrument is Eb Besson Sov. Tenorhorn, 2008 so German if I understand it right. I've had it a few months and it is in excellent working order.
File me with Magikarp on everything but the conclusion. Yes, the high register is easier. Yes the lower register feels less warm. But I'm leaving the HBC attached until I get killed or find something better.
Speaking only for myself, I think the immediate improvement up top more than compensates for what I think is a perceptible change lower--and I'm hoping the low notes just need more practice. Well, everything needs more practice but you know what I mean. I have convinced myself that the improved slotting midrange/up high is well worth what is for now a small trade off.
As a final thought, I'm convinced the change is real. I'm a believer. But if an acoustic physicist logged on and was able to prove by the numbers that this is snake oil, I'd certainly read his argument. I'm just a mathematician, and this kind of applied physics is beyond my expertise. If this is just a security blanket, I'd like that proven to me. For now, I'm sold that it has incrementally improved my music. Given their returns policy, I'd recommend you try an HBC for yourself if you haven't already.
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Originally posted by Shawn View PostSpeaking only for myself, I think the immediate improvement up top more than compensates for what I think is a perceptible change lower--and I'm hoping the low notes just need more practice. Well, everything needs more practice but you know what I mean. I have convinced myself that the improved slotting midrange/up high is well worth what is for now a small trade off.Dave Werden (ASCAP)
Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
Adams Artist (Adams E3)
Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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My HBC arriveth tomorrow, me thinks. It is half way through South Dakota today, and I am in the other half. Anxious to try it. I already liked the heavy cap I borrowed from Doug Ruby.John Morgan
The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 BaritoneAdams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
Year Round Except Summer:Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)Summer Only:
KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)
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Originally posted by John Morgan View PostMy HBC arriveth tomorrow, me thinks. It is half way through South Dakota today, and I am in the other half. Anxious to try it. I already liked the heavy cap I borrowed from Doug Ruby.Dean L. Surkin
Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1 mouthpiece
Bach 36B trombone; Bach 6.5AL and Faxx 7C mouthpieces (pBone on loan to granddaughter)
Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
See my avatar: Jazz (the black cockapoo; RIP) and Delilah (the cavapoo) keep me company while practicing
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Originally posted by dsurkin View PostWill you use it on both your Adams and your Dolce?John Morgan
The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 BaritoneAdams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
Year Round Except Summer:Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)Summer Only:
KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)
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Great comments Shawn and glad the 3rd HBC is working for you. As retired geezers here in Blighty who are both engineers and brass players, we're happily providing a high quality product and as fast service as we can. The One Month approval is a useful safety net for all players. I guess the old Blighty saying "The proof of the pudding is in the eating" also works for the pudding and blowing.
Originally posted by Shawn View PostMy HBC arrived yesterday. Instrument is Eb Besson Sov. Tenorhorn, 2008 so German if I understand it right. I've had it a few months and it is in excellent working order.
File me with Magikarp on everything but the conclusion. Yes, the high register is easier. Yes the lower register feels less warm. But I'm leaving the HBC attached until I get killed or find something better.
Speaking only for myself, I think the immediate improvement up top more than compensates for what I think is a perceptible change lower--and I'm hoping the low notes just need more practice. Well, everything needs more practice but you know what I mean. I have convinced myself that the improved slotting midrange/up high is well worth what is for now a small trade off.
As a final thought, I'm convinced the change is real. I'm a believer. But if an acoustic physicist logged on and was able to prove by the numbers that this is snake oil, I'd certainly read his argument. I'm just a mathematician, and this kind of applied physics is beyond my expertise. If this is just a security blanket, I'd like that proven to me. For now, I'm sold that it has incrementally improved my music. Given their returns policy, I'd recommend you try an HBC for yourself if you haven't already.
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