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Thread: Bowman Mouthpieces Are Back!

  1. Bowman Mouthpieces Are Back!

    I saw this was posted on Facebook about a week ago, but it looks like Griego has finally restarted production of the Bowman BB mouthpieces previously produced for DEG, and are now for sale through the Griego website (and probably other vendors as well):

    https://griegomouthpieces.com/products/bowman.php
    Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AM
    Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Bach 5G
    F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941) - Faxx 7C

    Past:
    York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
    Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
    Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS

  2. #2
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    Hi,

    I asked some details about this mouthpieces because I’m looking for something beetween SM3 and 4AL. I’d like to try a Denis Wick alternative brand.

    This is the answer :
    *The specs. you requested are below. Additionally, be sure to select the appropriate shank. BT is large shank, EU is medium/euro shank, and TB is small shank.

    BB1
    Cup Inner Diameter: .990"
    Rim Outer Diameter:1.540"
    Throat: .276"

    BB2
    Cup ID: 1.004"
    Rim OD: 1.545"
    Throat: .281"

    BB3
    Cup ID: .980"
    Rim OD: 1.515"
    Throat: .232"
    *

    Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizan View Post
    Hi,

    I asked some details about this mouthpieces because Im looking for something beetween SM3 and 4AL. Id like to try a Denis Wick alternative brand.

    This is the answer :
    *The specs. you requested are below. Additionally, be sure to select the appropriate shank. BT is large shank, EU is medium/euro shank, and TB is small shank.

    BB1
    Cup Inner Diameter: .990"
    Rim Outer Diameter:1.540"
    Throat: .276"

    BB2
    Cup ID: 1.004"
    Rim OD: 1.545"
    Throat: .281"

    BB3
    Cup ID: .980"
    Rim OD: 1.515"
    Throat: .232"
    *

    Regards,
    From what I've read, I think the BB1 and BB2 specs that appear above have been switched. I.e., the BB1 has the largest inner diameter, with BB2 and BB3 in decreasing order. I use the BB1 and it's slightly larger than the 6.5AL (1.00") I use for trombone.
    Dean L. Surkin
    Mack Brass MACK-EU1150S, BB1, Kadja, and DE 101XTG9 mouthpieces
    Bach 36B trombone; pBone; Vincent Bach (from 1971) 6.5AL mouthpiece
    Steinway 1902 Model A, restored by AC Pianocraft in 1988; Kawai MP8, Yamaha KX-76
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    You mentioned looking for something between a SM3 and Wick 4AL. In terms of cup depth a BB1 would likely fall in that range, but in every other spec it's far smaller, FYI.
    Andrew Easley
    Principal Euphonium, 35th Infantry Division Band of the Kansas Army National Guard

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    Thanks, I thanks you are true dsurkin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeasley View Post
    You mentioned looking for something between a SM3 and Wick 4AL. In terms of cup depth a BB1 would likely fall in that range, but in every other spec it's far smaller, FYI.
    Hi, it is what I saw. So, I think I will give a try to a K&G 4D+ or 3.5D+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizan View Post
    Hi, it is what I saw. So, I think I will give a try to a K&G 4D+ or 3.5D+.
    As someone who was in an identical situation, I bought a Randelfalk R3 and that is perfect in terms of diameter. Slightly bigger than a 4 but without ballooning into 3 dimensions; thoroughly recommended.

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    The randefalk pieces are super comfortable, although I had an issue with an R2 not inserting far enough into the lead pipe of any of my horns. I ended up having Karl Hammond turn the shank for me to get to a proper depth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magikarp View Post
    As someone who was in an identical situation, I bought a Randelfalk R3 and that is perfect in terms of diameter. Slightly bigger than a 4 but without ballooning into 3 dimensions; thoroughly recommended.
    Mike Taylor

    Illinois Brass Band
    Fox Valley Brass Band

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