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    Eb Alto/Tenor Horn & The Salvation Army

    There has been a lot of buzz on the forum lately about the Eb Alto/Tenor Horn. It is a rather obscure instrument outside the brass band world. But I wanted to share one place where it does get some use, Salvation Army Brass Banding. The Salvation Army Brass Band is a fork in the road that some British Brass Banding took. It developed parallel to it in many ways, but also went world wide as The Salvation Army did.

    The alto horn is present in most Salvation Army Brass Bands. Musically speaking, it is used in a mostly support capacity. Many of the solos go to the cornets, euphoniums, or trombones, but the alto is played right there along side them. So if you are looking for brass or Alto music, you could check out https://samusicindex.com/brass .

    I wanted there to be a thread for this neat little horn. So I talked Dave into making this Other Brass Instruments area. And this can be the start of a thread devoted to them. Feel free to chime in with whatever alto related discussion/questions, or other interesting find things here (smile).
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    The Salvation Army follows standard British-style brass band format so of course they use the alto/tenor horn. Here is an example, played by David Winch:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...os.cfm?vid=827

    The tenor has the facility of a cornet or euphonium, but they are not featured as much. I don't like the tone as well as French horn, from an absolute point of view, but it is very appropriate in brass band or brass quartet. Often lines hand off between sections, and a French horn would not cut it!

    Here is a Carpenters song (which I have also recorded):

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=1260

    As I mentioned, they can display brilliant facility...like this:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...os.cfm?vid=587

    Or this (in a piece Sergei Nakariakov has done on flugel):

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=2194

    And we must include Sheona White:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=1176
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    Exciting!!
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  4. I have met Owen Farr at the IBBSS (and many other tenor horn players as well) where he is the lead tutor for the horn section (flugelhorn and tenor). AFAIK, he is generally acknowledged as the best technical tenor horn player in the world at this time. He has finger and tongue speed that is amazing. I have seen Richard Marshall, David Childs, David Thornton, and Brett Baker literally bow down to Owen at evening recitals in the "I am not worthy" supplicant position. He is beyond amazing. Of course he also has a nice lyrical style, but most of his solo work is virtuosic in the classic violin/cornet solo style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    The Salvation Army follows standard British-style brass band format so of course they use the alto/tenor horn. Here is an example, played by David Winch:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...os.cfm?vid=827

    The tenor has the facility of a cornet or euphonium, but they are not featured as much. I don't like the tone as well as French horn, from an absolute point of view, but it is very appropriate in brass band or brass quartet. Often lines hand off between sections, and a French horn would not cut it!

    Here is a Carpenters song (which I have also recorded):

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=1260

    As I mentioned, they can display brilliant facility...like this:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...os.cfm?vid=587

    Or this (in a piece Sergei Nakariakov has done on flugel):

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=2194

    And we must include Sheona White:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=1176
    Thanks Dave. Great stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by daruby View Post
    I have met Owen Farr at the IBBSS (and many other tenor horn players as well) where he is the lead tutor for the horn section (flugelhorn and tenor). AFAIK, he is generally acknowledged as the best technical tenor horn player in the world at this time. He has finger and tongue speed that is amazing. I have seen Richard Marshall, David Childs, David Thornton, and Brett Baker literally bow down to Owen at evening recitals in the "I am not worthy" supplicant position. He is beyond amazing. Of course he also has a nice lyrical style, but most of his solo work is virtuosic in the classic violin/cornet solo style.
    I'll admit I was not familiar with Owen but after this post watched a couple of his videos. Wow! Incredible. Thank you for sharing.
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  7. Forgot to mention he is a great guy to have refreshing adult beverage with at the bar after the recitals or concerts at band camp!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post

    The tenor has the facility of a cornet or euphonium, but they are not featured as much. I don't like the tone as well as French horn, from an absolute point of view, but it is very appropriate in brass band or brass quartet. Often lines hand off between sections, and a French horn would not cut it!
    The guy who sold me the Tenor horn said it was super easy to make it sound like a French Horn--"left hand in the bell, and clam a lot of notes".

    Somewhat more seriously, I was the swing man in our school band so I was expected to play any brass instrument needed. So I got to be functionally lousy on many instruments instead of half-decent on one. The exception was French Horn. I couldn't even raise my standard to "lousy". I still have nightmares about that thing, and I'm too old to think they'll ever go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    The Salvation Army follows standard British-style brass band format
    Not exactly, but very close. The Salvation Army Band doesn't have a repiano cornet part - so the back row of cornets is 1st and 2nd cornet rather than repiano, 2nd, and 3rd. And salvation army bands often have four trombone parts instead of 3.
    --
    Barry

  10. Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    The Salvation Army follows standard British-style brass band format so of course they use the alto/tenor horn. Here is an example, played by David Winch:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...os.cfm?vid=827

    The tenor has the facility of a cornet or euphonium, but they are not featured as much. how long does it take to see results with phenq I don't like the tone as well as French horn, from an absolute point of view, but it is very appropriate in brass band or brass quartet. Often lines hand off between sections, and a French horn would not cut it!

    Here is a Carpenters song (which I have also recorded):

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=1260

    As I mentioned, they can display brilliant facility...like this:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...os.cfm?vid=587

    Or this (in a piece Sergei Nakariakov has done on flugel):

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=2194

    And we must include Sheona White:

    http://www.dwerden.com/music-videos/...s.cfm?vid=1245

    Thanks Great stuff!
    Last edited by LewisContreras; 11-04-2020 at 04:37 AM.

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