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  • Shinn
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2020
    • 277

    WTB Besson 3-valve (on top) Compensating Euphonium

    Searching for a Besson New Standard of pre-1974 vintage (1960’s vintage preferred) with a medium (european) shank mouthpiece receiver and in overall, very good original condition similar to the horns shown in the attached pictures.

    If you have a horn as described and are ready to sell or know of one for sale, I would appreciate you sending me a private message.

    Thank you!
    David
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    Last edited by Shinn; 03-23-2021, 03:32 PM.
    David Shinn
    Peninsula Concert Band
    Yorktown, Virginia



    1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
    1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
    1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
    1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


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    Peninsula Concert Band: https://www.peninsulaconcertband.org/
  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    #2
    Here a couple possibilities:

    This one might be a bit older:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/BESSON-Bb-3...2/324170997197

    This one is in silver. It needs a little dent work and a new bell-screw fitting at least:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Besson-Silv...d/254457117696

    They are a bit rare - I'm surprised to see 2 for sale at the same time (plus a couple more that have front valves).
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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    • daruby
      Moderator
      • Apr 2006
      • 2217

      #3
      The pictured horn in the OP's post is exactly what I marched with in the Cal Band from '71 - '73. Great sounding horn and beautifully made with satin silver and gold wash bell. I think the horn I used was "thrown in" to the deal when the Cal Band purchased a full set of eight (or maybe 10) BBb Sousaphones in frosted silver with gold wash bells. The Besson USA guys were trying to get the band to purchase matching euphs. Tough as nails with heavy brass, and damned awkward to march with. The bell points in when you are at parade rest. You have to flip the horn around your body to bring it to playing position, and most of the weight rests on your thumb with just a thumb hook, no ring or cross bar.

      Doug
      Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
      Concord Band
      Winchendon Winds
      Townsend Military Band

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      • Shinn
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2020
        • 277

        #4
        Search continues...
        David Shinn
        Peninsula Concert Band
        Yorktown, Virginia



        1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
        1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
        1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
        1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


        Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/davidshinn....ibextid=LQQJ4d
        Peninsula Concert Band: https://www.peninsulaconcertband.org/

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        • notaverygoodname
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2019
          • 161

          #5
          https://www.ebay.com/itm/BESSON-Bb-3...kAAOSwC-5d1t3d

          I've seen at least one that I can remember recently, but silver is going to be hard come by on the front bell model.
          Hobbyist. Collector. Oval rotary guy. Unpaid shill for Josef Klier mouthpieces.

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          • Shinn
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2020
            • 277

            #6
            Thanks for the link - the serial number indicates it is from 1965. When the horn was first listed a while back I contacted the seller regarding the mismatched valve caps (bottom caps are New Standard but the top caps and buttons are not). The seller stated that’s how the horn came. So based on the horn’s condition I will continue my search.

            Thank you again-
            David
            Last edited by Shinn; 09-30-2020, 04:32 PM.
            David Shinn
            Peninsula Concert Band
            Yorktown, Virginia



            1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
            1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
            1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
            1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


            Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/davidshinn....ibextid=LQQJ4d
            Peninsula Concert Band: https://www.peninsulaconcertband.org/

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            • Shinn
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2020
              • 277

              #7
              Re-advertising as we approach the new year...
              David Shinn
              Peninsula Concert Band
              Yorktown, Virginia



              1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
              1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
              1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
              1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


              Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/davidshinn....ibextid=LQQJ4d
              Peninsula Concert Band: https://www.peninsulaconcertband.org/

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              • Shinn
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2020
                • 277

                #8
                Springtime bump...
                David Shinn
                Peninsula Concert Band
                Yorktown, Virginia



                1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
                1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
                1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
                1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


                Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/davidshinn....ibextid=LQQJ4d
                Peninsula Concert Band: https://www.peninsulaconcertband.org/

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                • daruby
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2217

                  #9
                  Note: Thread ttitle changed at request of original poster (David Shinn)
                  Adams E3 0.60 Sterling bell - Prototype top sprung valves
                  Concord Band
                  Winchendon Winds
                  Townsend Military Band

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                  • Shinn
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 277

                    #10
                    Search ended.
                    David Shinn
                    Peninsula Concert Band
                    Yorktown, Virginia



                    1971 Besson 181 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3+1 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
                    1971 Besson 176 ‘New Standard’ Euphonium (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC3M
                    1979 Besson 755 'New Standard' Baritone (3 compensating) ~ Alliance DC5S
                    1894 Besson ‘Doublophone’ Euphonium (3 + 1 changeover) & Original Leather Case


                    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/davidshinn....ibextid=LQQJ4d
                    Peninsula Concert Band: https://www.peninsulaconcertband.org/

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