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  1. Instrument doubling

    I know many euphoniumists double on tuba or trombone, but how about trumpet? I started on trumpet in Jr high and switched to baritone horn in the 9th grade and stayed with it. I'm 74 now and playing euph, but am thinking about picking up a trumpet just for my own enjoyment. Will playing that small mouthpiece from time to time negatively affect my euph embouchure?

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    Some people could double on trumpet without bothering their chops, but I'm not sure everyone can. I don't think it would work for me, for example.

    The trumpet requires more air pressure, less air volume, and tighter chops in general. Any of those factors could mess you up if you can't separate the physical and mental requirements of each.

    The "right" person may be able to do this successfully. It certainly wouldn't hurt to try it for a while and see what happens. Just keep an eye out for conflicts between the two instruments' requirements and the output you get.

    The British artist James Morrison covers the whole realm of brass instruments. Somewhere on YouTube is a video of him playing every instrument in a brass band...all during the same piece. That's pretty fast switching! But I'm not sure his euphonium sound is ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davewerden View Post
    [snip]The British artist James Morrison covers the whole realm of brass instruments. Somewhere on YouTube is a video of him playing every instrument in a brass band...all during the same piece. That's pretty fast switching! But I'm not sure his euphonium sound is ideal.
    I adore his trumpet playing, and while the music he plays on trombone is stellar, I'm not enamored of his tone on trombone, either.

    I pick up my trumpet once in a blue moon (usually to add a part to a home recording). I accept the fact that I will not be able to play higher than concert D5, and that I may have to use Melodyne (similar to AutoTune) to help my intonation. I did once use Melodyne to raise a passage up an octave (I was trying to record a big band chart I had written) and the results were, um, interesting.
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  4. Thanks, David. I'll try to find the video, but I'm no James Morrison, haha. I might try it and just stay aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Thanks, David. I'll try to find the video, but I'm no James Morrison, haha. I might try it and just stay aware.
    You're welcome! And if you find that video, please post the link here. I looked and must not have chosen the right search words.
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    franz, that's a good one, but there is another. The one I remember was during a concert and he was on stage in front of the brass band. Thanks for posting, though. The other one may have been pulled by now or something.
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    I know of a video where James Morrison plays every instrument (except drums) in a Big Band:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T-V7CA1Ksg

    Obviously, this video is doctored, he does not have that many siblings...

    But here's a video of him playing trumpet, trombone and flugelhorn at the same concert, together with a Brass band:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6wrgcdZmXk

    (it is an edited video, there's also a Euphonium and a Baritone in front of him, but he isn't shown playing those)
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    I'm not a pro or anything, but I own a substantial collection that I play for my own entertainment frequently. My embouchure is most suited for alto, but I'll play whatever I want (darn it!).

    In my experience, I've never done anything that hurt my tenor embouchure. The first one to take a hit for me has always been Trumpet. Contributing factors might be my disdain for the instrument and the fact that I was never great at it. I never really enjoyed Bb Trumpet so I don't play it very much. I do enjoy playing my Ventil-Fanfare from time to time, but as I've tried to expand my range to Eb Tuba, I find my stamina really suffering on it. Sure, I can still hit a high concert Bb on it, but not all day. It wasn't long ago that I could squeak out an Eb6, but it's not happening today.

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    This thread reminded me of a recital by Dr. Ben Pierce (professor of low brass at the University of Arkansas) followed by discussion at Ball State University a few years ago. Dr. Pierce certainly proved he is a virtuoso on both euphonium and tuba. After the recital, someone asked Dr. Pierce how he managed his practice on both instruments. He responded that he played euphonium until his lips grew tired then picked up the tuba.
    Perhaps Dr. Pierce’s practice method of playing the smaller instrument first might work for you if you choose to add trumpet to your instruments.

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