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    King 2265

    Hello everyone! I am seeking the wisdom of the older players who have a well rounded knowledge of American Style Euphoniums.
    So after years of buying, selling, and trading to amass a collection of various instruments, I have decided to start collecting euphoniums. This week, I was fortunate to pick up both a King curved bell euphonium, and a Conn curved bell. I immediately recognized the Conn as a Conn 20I, and I assumed the King was just a normal 625. Both horns are in really good shape, and are silver plated. Today, I was noodling around on the King, and looking it over. Upon inspection, I noticed that something seemed slightly different about this horn. It is only a small thing, but I noticed that there is an extra set of bracing on the main tuning slide, that I don't recall seeing on any 625. I looked up pictures of the 2265, and saw that my horn matches the one in the pictures. If my horn really is a 2265, what is the story behind these horns? I know there is the straight bell version which is the 2267, and I know that King only still produces the 4 valve variants, the 2266 and 2268.
    Were these horns just step-ups?
    Jacob A. Casas
    TLU Sophomore
    Yamaha 642 Neo(School Owned), Denis Wick SM$
    Miraphone 186(School Owned), Giddings and W4bster Williwaw
    Besson New Standard 3v Comp, Yamaha 51D
    King 1140, Conn Helleberg
    King 607F Tempo II, Bach 5g
    King 605F, Conn 12c
    Conn 15a cornet, Bach 7c

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    King had two lines that I knew of when I was in the CG Band - the cheaper was the King Cleveland, which is what we used for marching gigs. The reason we chose that one is that it had a little less bracing (making it lighter).

    I know that the upscale Conns had a more elaborate bracing look, with a series of "ridges" near each end. I think King did the same thing. King offered the upscale version in 3- or 4-valve.

    Maybe a photo of your horn would help.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

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    Ah, now I remember! The upscale kings had a recess in the top valve cap, so the finger button's edges could fit into it. The Cleveland had a raised center to the cap, but no recess (or channel) in that top cap.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

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    This is the horn, hopefully I uploaded it correctly.
    Jacob A. Casas
    TLU Sophomore
    Yamaha 642 Neo(School Owned), Denis Wick SM$
    Miraphone 186(School Owned), Giddings and W4bster Williwaw
    Besson New Standard 3v Comp, Yamaha 51D
    King 1140, Conn Helleberg
    King 607F Tempo II, Bach 5g
    King 605F, Conn 12c
    Conn 15a cornet, Bach 7c

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobcasas99 View Post
    This is the horn, hopefully I uploaded it correctly.
    Definitely the upscale model!
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams E3, Denis Wick 4AL (classic)
    Instructor of Euphonium and Tuba
    Twitter: davewerden
    Facebook: davewerden
    YouTube: dwerden
    Owner of TubaEuph.com, DWerden.com

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