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  • ChristianeSparkle
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2018
    • 366

    Wessex Sinfonico

    Finally some images and details about the Sinfonico!

    https://wessex-tubas.com/collections...nfonico-ep600h


    Made from sheet metal like the Adams? That's very intriguing. 11" bell. I love the copper plated highlights though! Wonder how it fares now compared to Mr. Werden's review from ITEC.

    The price looks decent too, I might add!

    Anyone planning to give the horn a try and drop us a review?
    "Never over complicate things. Accept "bad" days. Always enjoy yourself when playing, love the sound we can make on our instruments (because that's why we all started playing the Euph)"

    Euph: Yamaha 642II Neo - 千歌音
    Mouthpiece: K&G 4D, Denis Wick 5AL

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  • Nbnarcisi
    Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 136

    #2
    Just may make a purchase of this one Christiane, it does look quite nice and the price is nice as well. Availability looks like March 2020 at this point.

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    • spkissane
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 226

      #3
      Interesting design - it looks to possibly be based on the Hirsbrunner (?) judging by where the slides are positioned and the fact the the bottom bow connects extremely high up to the horn/bell. Hirsbrunners certainly don't have 11" bells, though, to my knowledge. Too bad the website doesn't have any more info on the specs.

      Based on the photos alone, this is definitely a horn I wouldn't stand on its bell!
      Sean Kissane
      Low Brass Specialist, Paige's Music
      Principal Euphonium, Indianapolis Brass Choir
      Principal Euphonium, Crossroads Brass Band

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      • MikeBMiller
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2019
        • 26

        #4
        I spoke with a guy at Wessex a week or two ago about this horn. He said they were taking deposits for February delivery. I believe the deposit is $1K.

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        • guidocorona
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2018
          • 483

          #5
          Hope someone will be able to post some meaningful audio/video clips of a production-level Sinfonico before February 2020... And perhaps a review of a production-level horn.

          G.
          Last edited by guidocorona; 11-15-2019, 01:54 PM.
          M5050L - DC2&3, SM2&4U, BT16, Carbonaria Heavy & New
          Wessex EP104 Festivo - available
          Carolbrass CCR7772 Bb cornet - Available

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          • bbocaner
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 1449

            #6
            wow! that's different!
            --
            Barry

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            • John Morgan
              Moderator
              • Apr 2014
              • 1885

              #7
              Hmmm.... I might be tempted to sell my Dolce and give this one a try. Sure looks nice, and I have to admit to being intrigued. This would not replace my Adams (which is irreplaceable), but would be a nice addition to my stable. I can't tell if the case is a little fancier version of the big (huge) fluffy case for the Dolce, or if it is downsized a bit. Downsized would be nice. Would like to see all the specs.
              Last edited by John Morgan; 11-15-2019, 03:16 PM.
              John Morgan
              The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
              Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
              1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
              Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
              Year Round Except Summer:
              Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
              KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
              Summer Only:
              Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
              Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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              • miketeachesclass
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 461

                #8
                I had the opportunity to play the prototype of this horn - it played reasonably, but not as well as their production models. I'm curious about this horn in its production state, though. We'll see.
                Mike Taylor

                Illinois Brass Band
                Fox Valley Brass Band

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                • John Morgan
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 1885

                  #9
                  I think I blew a few notes on the prototype at ITEC 2019. I remember that they didn't have it early in the week, but it showed up towards the end of ITEC. I think I played it for a little bit. Don't remember much about it, actually. The pictures of the horn at the link provided by Christiane sure make it look nice. Think I will wait until I hear some chatter about the horns coming next year.
                  John Morgan
                  The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
                  Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
                  1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
                  Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
                  Year Round Except Summer:
                  Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
                  KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
                  Summer Only:
                  Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
                  Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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                  • guidocorona
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2018
                    • 483

                    #10
                    I missed the Sinfonico prototype at ITEC by one day.... I had to leave the day before it arrived at the show *Rolls Eyes!*

                    G.
                    M5050L - DC2&3, SM2&4U, BT16, Carbonaria Heavy & New
                    Wessex EP104 Festivo - available
                    Carolbrass CCR7772 Bb cornet - Available

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                    • davewerden
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 11138

                      #11
                      Here are my impressions of the ITEC prototype. It seemed very promising!

                      http://www.dwerden.com/forum/entry.p...Made-Euphonium
                      Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                      Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                      Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                      Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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                      • Nbnarcisi
                        Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 136

                        #12
                        Having every confidence in your opinion Dave, I just spoke with Steve Marcus at the Chicago store and ordered one up. Surprised they are still open at this hour. This batch should be arriving mid-April, will be a great addition to present company of horns.

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                        • Davidus1
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 622

                          #13
                          Looks like a neat horn.
                          John 3:16


                          Conn Victor 5H Trombone
                          Yamaha 354 Trombone
                          Conn 15I Euphonium

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                          • Fujiifilm
                            Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 189

                            #14
                            Hey all, I was able to play test this euph after a masterclass Wessex was helping sponsor at the university I currently attend. It also sounds like it'll be staying here for at least a few days, so I'll be able to spend some quality time on it and hopefully give it a spin during my tuba-euph and wind ensemble rehearsals this week!

                            If it all works out, I'll follow up with a more detailed post in a few days, but for now, my initial impressions are below, along with some info on the design I learned from Chuck, the Wessex rep there. This particular instrument I believe is one of the first of the production models.

                            For background, I currently play on a Willson 2900TA-1 with a Wick 4AM, and I used a Wick Heritage 4AL on the EP600 (the only large shank mouthpiece I had with me in the moment).

                            I found a lot of my initial impressions to match Mr. Werden's review from ITEC he posted: The response was great throughout the range, and it seemed to project very well. I didn't have a tuner with me, but nothing seemed noticeably out of tune to my ears.

                            In regards to ergonomics, it's physically a large horn, like a Hirsbrunner or Miraphone M5050. However, it's much, much lighter than you might expect given the size, due to the sheet brass construction. This also contributes to the responsiveness of the instrument. The bell is also smaller in diameter (280mm on the website, about 11 inches) but with a wide throat. Despite the larger size of the euph, I didn't find it uncomfortable to hold standing up (I think the lighter weight definitely helped this).

                            It sounds like it will come with the option of either a large shank or medium/european shank receiver, but I'm not sure if the horn would ship with both and you would be able to change them out yourself or if it would be something specified when you order. The one I tried had a large shank receiver installed.

                            Lastly in regards to the finish, the copper highlights are indeed copper plate, but with a clear lacquer over those plated parts to prevent oxidation/patina.
                            Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AM
                            Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Bob Reeves BrassArk 5G "Gladstone"
                            Yamaha YSL-8440 Trombone - Denis Wick 5BS
                            VMI 3301S BBb Tuba - Schilke Helleberg

                            Past:
                            York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
                            Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
                            Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS
                            F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941)

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                            • Fujiifilm
                              Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 189

                              #15
                              Sorry about the very late follow up, but due to some unforeseen circumstances (including getting sick), I wasn't able to get extra time on the Sinfonico nor test it out in an ensemble setting. My sincere apologies if any of you were waiting for that post.

                              However, I did want to post some photos of the instrument that I had taken when I did have access to it, so you might get a little better of an idea of what it looks like in natural light, as well as how it physically compares with another common model (in this case, my Willson 2900).

                              The first two photos are of a close up of the bell engraving and the valve buttons, which are a slightly different design than those on the Dolce or other Wessex piston valved instruments. The last two are side by sides (front and back views) with my Willson 2900.

                              Again, I do apologize for not being able to provide the follow up review I had mentioned in my last post!

                              Last edited by Fujiifilm; 12-15-2019, 02:34 PM. Reason: messed up the photo uploading the first time, trying to correct.
                              Willson 2900 TA-1 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AM
                              Yamaha YSL-643 Trombone - Bob Reeves BrassArk 5G "Gladstone"
                              Yamaha YSL-8440 Trombone - Denis Wick 5BS
                              VMI 3301S BBb Tuba - Schilke Helleberg

                              Past:
                              York Preference 3067 Euphonium - Denis Wick 4AL
                              Benge 165F Trombone - Benge Marcellus
                              Wessex BR140 Baritone - Denis Wick 6BS
                              F.E. Olds Special Trombone (ca. 1941)

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