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  1. #41
    Shires had a large shank Q40 and Q41 at the Army Band's American Trombone Workshop this past week. I liked them both. I think I'd prefer the Q40 which I felt had a little more focus and easy response despite the larger bell.
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    Barry

  2. #42
    Hello Barry,

    How did Q40 and Q41 differ in tone color?

    Which mouthpiece were you using with them?

    Regards, Guido
    Euph - Wessex EP104 Festivo - SM4U
    Flugel - Kanstul 1525
    Trpt - Adams A4 LB
    Bb Cornet -Carolbrass CCR-7772R-GSS
    Eb Cornet - Carolbrass CCR-7775-GSS

  3. #43
    Doug Elliott EUPH103N/I/I9S

    As far as I could tell in the loud room there they were pretty darn similar. Q40 had a bigger *and* brighter sound, but the difference was very subtle. The difference in feel was more pronounced than the difference in sound.
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    Barry

  4. #44
    That's interesting, Barry... I wonder why they were not featuring the Shires 5MB, which is the standard mouthpiece shipped with Q-40 and Q-41.

    Guido
    Euph - Wessex EP104 Festivo - SM4U
    Flugel - Kanstul 1525
    Trpt - Adams A4 LB
    Bb Cornet -Carolbrass CCR-7772R-GSS
    Eb Cornet - Carolbrass CCR-7775-GSS

  5. Iíve got both a Shires Q40 and Q41 (large shank) on trial right now. Iím hoping to do a video of the horns and also comparing it to my Besson 2052 once I can get into a space worthy of doing some videos. Was hoping to use all 3 horns in brass band rehearsal before we got shutdown, but alas...

    So far Iím noticing the Q41 sounds more similar to the prestige than the Q40, which was surprising. I find the Q41 to be warmer and richer than the Q40. The compact sound that is advertised is not compact at all compared to other smaller bell euphoniums. To me, it feels like the difference in bell weight (the Q41 is heavier) is more noticeable in sound differences than the bell size. Iím using a DC3 mouthpiece FYI. Hopefully there is some interest in hearing someone play these 3 horns side by side!
    Last edited by stevevaughn; 05-07-2020 at 12:47 PM.
    Steven Vaughn, D.M.A.
    Professor of Euphonium, University of Northern Colorado

    Principal Tuba - Fort Collins Symphony
    Solo Euphonium - Colorado Brass

    Eastman 836
    MW 2182W
    Besson 2052

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by stevevaughn View Post
    ...Hopefully there is some interest in hearing someone play these 3 horns side by side!
    No problem! We LOVE that kind of stuff! If you can do them all in one day, same room, same recorder, bell pointing the same way... that would be ideal.

    BTW, when I do such comparisons, I play several different extracts. I don't like to switch horns for each excerpt because it may lead to discomfort and inaccurate results. In the past, I played all my excerpts on one, then switched and played them all again. After the fact, I "spliced" the recording together to arrange it by excerpt. So you'd hear:

    excerpt 1, horn A
    excerpt 1, horn B
    excerpt 1, horn C
    excerpt 2, horn A
    etc.

    That allowed me to stay in the "groove" of each horn.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
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  7. #47
    Hello Steven, I am very much looking forward to your Q40/Q41/Besson comparison video!!!

    Saluti, Guido
    Euph - Wessex EP104 Festivo - SM4U
    Flugel - Kanstul 1525
    Trpt - Adams A4 LB
    Bb Cornet -Carolbrass CCR-7772R-GSS
    Eb Cornet - Carolbrass CCR-7775-GSS

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