Originally Posted by
joshealejo
What about the later ones, the model 767, the ones that have large (bass trombone) shank? Do they sound different or have a different response? They always show up for sale at a reasonable prices, but people seem to pass them and always prefer to buy or to wait for an used Prestige or Sovereign. I also thought It could be a very nice instrument for solo as the smaller bell.
Several issues here.
- Quite a few older Imperials and New Standard horns have been converted from medium shank to large shank.
- The existing records show that serial number 481845 dates to January 1970 and 560000 dates to 1974. There is no clarity about serial numbers in between those two data points. These are the dates that the instrument was ordered from the factory and it generally is assumed the instrument would have shipped within a few months of that date.
- The first Globe Stamp "Boosey&Hawkes" Sovereign 967's are believed to date to 1974. I know that my brass band has a Globe Stamp Sovereign tenor horn that has a serial number prior to 560000 so the name "Sovereign" must have been used prior to 1974.
- It is hard to know at this point whether any given large shank New Standard/Imperial with a serial number that puts it in the early 1970s originally was medium shank or was a 767 that left the factory as a large shank.
- The 767 was ultimately replaced by the 968. The 968 has a slightly larger bell than the New Standard/Imperial and a slightly different lead pipe than the 967.
I think ultimately it comes down to "knowing" what you are getting. If the horn has the medium shank receiver and appears to be unmolested and has a pre-1970 serial number, then it is more desirable because it will definitely be of the era and design that buyers are interested in.
Doug
Last edited by daruby; 11-26-2019 at 11:39 PM.
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