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  1. #11
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    Looks really nice Will. There are some folks who swear by the advantages of keeping a Euro shank. I know some of the Willson 2900 folks feel that way. Dr. Brian Bowman, Carlyle Weber to mention two. But my old mentor/teacher Fred Dart, who played a '68 Besson, changed his out to large shank and never regretted it. There are more choices for sure.
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  2. Will,

    I preferred the euro shank on these horns. I felt that the intonation, response, and sound was slightly better. If you already play a Doug Elliott, Wick, or DEG mouthpiece, the euro shank is not terribly limiting. Also, Besson shipped the New Standards with an adapter that allowed use of a tenor shank mouthpiece.

    Doug
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    I had a 1971 New Standard with medium shank and a 1976 NS with large shank. I agree with Doug's observations. The only advantage I found with the large shank, other than making it easier to buy mouthpieces, was that the horn could handle more "input" when I needed to project more.
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  4. Well having made the 4 valve Besson look so good, the 3 valve I already had was looking pretty shabby in comparison. So off it went to the repair shop at Rosso Music along with what remained of the 3 valve parts horn. The lacquer was quite worn and there were numerous small dents in crooks and tubes in the valve section. The bell was fairly straight but had something wrong in the rim area. The bottom bow had a few larger dents. So, the bell and bottom bell were de-soldered and removed. All slides were pulled and valves disassembled. Everything went for a bath in the ultrasonic cleaning tank. The bell was rolled to be dent free and burnished smooth. Beneath what seemed to be an old re-laquer job a crack was uncovered near the bell rim. This was silver soldered and the entire bell polished. The bottom bell too was rolled smooth in the Z60 dent machine, then polished. Nearly all of the dents in the valve section were removed with dent balls and crook tools. A moderate amount of polishing was then done on the valve section. The bell and bottom bow were soldered back in place. Spray lacquer was applied to the stripped and polished areas.

    Photos below:
    Before (sorry it is out of focus) with 3 valve keeper on left, 3 valve donor on right.
    Bell and bottom bow on, re-laquered and ready to reassemble.
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    Last edited by Will; 10-27-2019 at 02:05 PM.
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