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  • davewerden
    Administrator
    • Nov 2005
    • 11136

    Video - Tips Playing the Holst 2nd Suite

    In this video I'm discussing the solo in the Holst 2nd Suite, giving details about how to play it musically and effectively.

    For those who want to play this solo, even when your band has not programmed it, I wrote it as part of a 2-movement suite for euphonium and piano. The sheet music is available here:
    https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/searc...n&aff_id=15680

    Listen on YouTube here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3zXDhl83w


    Or listen on the embedded video player here:

    Last edited by davewerden; 08-21-2019, 10:52 AM.
    Dave Werden (ASCAP)
    Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
    Adams Artist (Adams E3)
    Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
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  • John Morgan
    Moderator
    • Apr 2014
    • 1884

    #2
    Great video. One thing that I notice with this solo are some players propensity to play the solo as 8 phrases (with a breath after each), as opposed to 4 phrases (with a breath after each) as you demonstrate in the video. When I hear this played by young players, they mostly seem to do the 8 phrases version. I have done both, and as a former smoker, the 8 breaths is easier, but I must admit, the 4 breaths sounds better.
    John Morgan
    The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
    Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
    1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
    Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
    Year Round Except Summer:
    Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
    KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
    Summer Only:
    Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
    Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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    • davewerden
      Administrator
      • Nov 2005
      • 11136

      #3
      Thanks, John! I feel the same way about what sounds best. Truth be told I need to catch one in the middle of the 3rd phrase sometimes, but often I'm OK without it. When playing with a loud band, despite the friendly scoring by Holst, it might still be necessary to grab a breath every 4 bars because so much volume would be needed.
      Dave Werden (ASCAP)
      Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
      Adams Artist (Adams E3)
      Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
      YouTube: dwerden
      Facebook: davewerden
      Twitter: davewerden
      Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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      • Davidus1
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 622

        #4
        Thanks for posting! The older I get the smaller my air tank seems to be though! I appreciate your post and the experience you guys have.
        John 3:16


        Conn Victor 5H Trombone
        Yamaha 354 Trombone
        Conn 15I Euphonium

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        • Clayton M.
          Member
          • Aug 2018
          • 92

          #5
          I was gearing up to play this very solo in our next concert, but the director needed me back in the trumpet section. Grrrr.
          Clayton M.
          Musician for Fun
          Euphonium Newbie - XO 1270S
          Trumpet Novice - XO 1602RS

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          • John Morgan
            Moderator
            • Apr 2014
            • 1884

            #6
            Originally posted by Clayton M. View Post
            I was gearing up to play this very solo in our next concert, but the director needed me back in the trumpet section. Grrrr.
            Well, that's a drag. But look where you're living! Tell your director you lost your trumpet mouthpiece. Then if he gives you another one, tell him you lost your trumpet chops. Then if that doesn't work tell him this is the biggest euphonium solo in the world, and if you don't get to play it, then you're just gonna be real ornery for about 20 years.
            John Morgan
            The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
            Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
            1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
            Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
            Year Round Except Summer:
            Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
            KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
            Summer Only:
            Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
            Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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            • John Morgan
              Moderator
              • Apr 2014
              • 1884

              #7
              Originally posted by Clayton M. View Post
              I was gearing up to play this very solo in our next concert, but the director needed me back in the trumpet section. Grrrr.
              I forgot to ask. What band do you play in? Who is the director? My wife and I were pondering moving right to your fair island about 4-5 years ago, but things didn't quite work out for that to happen. I had contacted a fellow who directed some band there and I think he was a former member of The United States Army Band. Curious to know if that is the same band.
              John Morgan
              The U.S. Army Band (Pershing's Own) 1971-1976
              Adams E3 Custom Series Euphonium, 1956 B&H Imperial Euphonium,
              1973 F. E. Olds & Son Studio Model T-31 Baritone
              Adams TB1 Tenor Trombone, Yamaha YBL-822G Bass Trombone
              Year Round Except Summer:
              Kingdom of the Sun (KOS) Concert Band, Ocala, FL (Euphonium)
              KOS Brass Quintet (Trombone, Euphonium)
              Summer Only:
              Rapid City Municipal Band, Rapid City, SD (Euphonium)
              Rapid City New Horizons Band (Euphonium)

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              • bbocaner
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 1449

                #8
                I like the way you play this, Dave. It sounds great! I always like to go back to the original folk songs with these pieces, and know the words when I'm playing them. I couldn't find the original for this but there's a Holst arrangement for 4-part mens voices.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWnOf2zEzyU
                --
                Barry

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                • davewerden
                  Administrator
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 11136

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bbocaner View Post
                  I like the way you play this, Dave. It sounds great! I always like to go back to the original folk songs with these pieces, and know the words when I'm playing them. I couldn't find the original for this but there's a Holst arrangement for 4-part mens voices.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWnOf2zEzyU
                  Love that arrangement (which I had not previously heard)! Thanks for sharing.
                  Dave Werden (ASCAP)
                  Euphonium Soloist, U.S. Coast Guard Band, retired
                  Adams Artist (Adams E3)
                  Alliance Mouthpiece DC3, Wick 4AL, Wick 4ABL
                  YouTube: dwerden
                  Facebook: davewerden
                  Twitter: davewerden
                  Instagram: davewerdeneuphonium

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